1549 Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Yankees players love him, he had a lot of job interviews last season, he obviously has a winning attitude. Anybody think he is on the list of possible replacements? Personally I think a manager with actual major league managerial experience would be best, but if KW isn't going in that direction, the I think Randolph would be excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Another 1st time manager for Sox fans to watch train on the job..no thanks, same for Backman etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Another 1st time manager for Sox fans to watch train on the job..no thanks, same for Backman etc LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1549 Posted September 29, 2003 Author Share Posted September 29, 2003 Another 1st time manager for Sox fans to watch train on the job..no thanks, same for Backman etc Like I said, I would prefer a manager with MLB managerial experience. But, its not like first timers haven't had their moments. It didn't take Mike Scioscia(I butchered the spelling) long to win a ring, now did it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 LOL Rex , I expect that for someone who is not a long suffering Sox fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Rex , I expect that for someone who is not a long suffering Sox fan. It's just a narrow-minded comment. One I would expect to come from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 It's just a narrow-minded comment. One I would expect to come from you. Lamont, Bevington, Manuel been there done that too many time as far as coming from me Rex I will take the high road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molto Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 I didn't know Lamont, Bevington and Manuel were the only first-time managers in the history of the game? maybe I'm wrong, but every non-first-time-managers were once first-time managers. problem isn't getting a proven manager or not, problem is getting the right manager for the team, whether it is his first time or not. Wally Backman may be a good manager, but it doesn't appear as though he would work with this team in particular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 I didn't know Lamont, Bevington and Manuel were the only first-time managers in the history of the game? maybe I'm wrong, but every non-first-time-managers were once first-time managers. problem isn't getting a proven manager or not, problem is getting the right manager for the team, whether it is his first time or not. Wally Backman may be a good manager, but it doesn't appear as though he would work with this team in particular. Sox last three have been 1st time, time to go proven this time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 I didn't know Lamont, Bevington and Manuel were the only first-time managers in the history of the game? maybe I'm wrong, but every non-first-time-managers were once first-time managers. problem isn't getting a proven manager or not, problem is getting the right manager for the team, whether it is his first time or not. Wally Backman may be a good manager, but it doesn't appear as though he would work with this team in particular. Sox last three have been 1st time, time to go proven this time Proven, meaning someone somebody else has already fired?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molto Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 I'm not saying not to, but if the guy is the perfect fit, the guy is a perfect fit. I'm not saying Randolph is a perfect fit as I don't know much about him, but don't just go with proven, because that could mean Bobby Valentine, who would not only be bad for this team, but is a bit overrated. personally, Cito Gaston would be fine by me. I wanted him a few years back, but of course, it never happened. he's laidback like Manuel, but being laidback wasn't Manuel's problem. Manuel's problem was his "we'll be alright, we got time" approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 We don't need someone managing the Sox that has never won before. These retreads out there just keep surfacing as the manager of another team, that doesn't win either. Let's get someone with a winning record, like Larussa, or get a new guy with a winning rep. Already saw the name of Hargrove mentioned and in the past it was Gaston and Valentine. We don't need them. Heck, why fire Manuel if you bring in someone with a worse overall record? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Lamont, Bevington, Manuel been there done that too many time as far as coming from me Rex I will take the high road. Who is out there that is proven??? I agree with you but winners are a rare commodity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molto Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 name a manager who has a winning record and his available? LaRussa really isn't available as he will most likely stay in St. Louis for at least one more year. so who is out there who is a proven winner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 name a manager who has a winning record and his available? LaRussa really isn't available as he will most likely stay in St. Louis for at least one more year. so who is out there who is a proven winner? Sparky Anderson Chuck Tanner Tommy Lasorda Earl Weaver Lots of options..... LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molto Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 look at the playoffs teams in the AL: the Red Sox, A's and Twins all have managers, unless I'm mistaken, who have never managed a team before their tenures on their respective teams. Gardenhire, Macha and Grady Little. granted, all four managers in the NL are either highly respected and considered to be quality managers, or veterans: McKeon, Cox, Alou and Baker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molto Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 From the comments KW made at the press conference, it was obvious he intends to talk to some folks involved in the playoffs. Looking over the rosters of the coaching staffs, these are the names that I believe COULD come off that list: Ozzie Guillen, Marlins third base coach Willie Randolph, Yankees' third base coach Terry Pendleton, Braves hitting coach Terry Francona, As bench coach and former manager in the Sox farm system when KW was in charge of player development. Flopped with Phillies, but talent wasn't great. Dave Righetti, Giants pitching coach. Highly touted by everybody. I'm sure there are other names, but I believe at least two or three of these guys will be interviewed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 Cito Gaston is not a proven winner? Hmmm. You'd think 2 World Series titles would qualify. Call it hunch, but I think this team is set up to bring in Ozzie Guillen as the new manager. The fact that the entire coaching staff was retained, other than Kimm seems to eliminate most of the "established" candidates. LaRussa without Duncan? That's like Abbott without Costello. As Ozzie said, he'd have the media and fans on his side when he got here and all he would need was a good coaching staff. That staff is already in place. Gaston or Randolph might be willing to come in under those conditions. Gaston has been sitting idle for a while and Randolph would probably take any shot at managing he could get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmr31 Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 Cito Gaston is not a proven winner? Hmmm. You'd think 2 World Series titles would qualify. Call it hunch, but I think this team is set up to bring in Ozzie Guillen as the new manager. The fact that the entire coaching staff was retained, other than Kimm seems to eliminate most of the "established" candidates. LaRussa without Duncan? That's like Abbott without Costello. As Ozzie said, he'd have the media and fans on his side when he got here and all he would need was a good coaching staff. That staff is already in place. Gaston or Randolph might be willing to come in under those conditions. Gaston has been sitting idle for a while and Randolph would probably take any shot at managing he could get. Yup i said that earlier. All signs point to the sox hiring from within, or a guy theyre VERY familiar with........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 If I remember right didn't we also give Tony LaRussa his first managerial job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 If I remember right didn't we also give Tony LaRussa his first managerial job? Yes. And Kessinger, and Larry Doby, and Don Guetteridge. Torborg had managed before, and Bob Lemon had too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 Call it hunch, but I think this team is set up to bring in Ozzie Guillen as the new manager. The fact that the entire coaching staff was retained, other than Kimm seems to eliminate most of the "established" candidates. LaRussa without Duncan? That's like Abbott without Costello. As Ozzie said, he'd have the media and fans on his side when he got here and all he would need was a good coaching staff. That staff is already in place. Well, here's one fan that would give a huge :fyou to Ozzie Guillen. I lost all respect for him when he made the comment that ballplayers don't owe fans anything during The Strike talks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 Call it hunch, but I think this team is set up to bring in Ozzie Guillen as the new manager. The fact that the entire coaching staff was retained, other than Kimm seems to eliminate most of the "established" candidates. LaRussa without Duncan? That's like Abbott without Costello. As Ozzie said, he'd have the media and fans on his side when he got here and all he would need was a good coaching staff. That staff is already in place. Well, here's one fan that would give a huge :fyou to Ozzie Guillen. I lost all respect for him when he made the comment that ballplayers don't owe fans anything during The Strike talks. Damn! ... We got rid of " :fyou Jerry Manuel" and we haven't even hired him yet but he's gonna be " :fyou Ozzie Guillen". Killa, you're amazing dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 Call it hunch, but I think this team is set up to bring in Ozzie Guillen as the new manager. The fact that the entire coaching staff was retained, other than Kimm seems to eliminate most of the "established" candidates. LaRussa without Duncan? That's like Abbott without Costello. As Ozzie said, he'd have the media and fans on his side when he got here and all he would need was a good coaching staff. That staff is already in place. Well, here's one fan that would give a huge :fyou to Ozzie Guillen. I lost all respect for him when he made the comment that ballplayers don't owe fans anything during The Strike talks. Damn! ... We got rid of " :fyou Jerry Manuel" and we haven't even hired him yet but he's gonna be " :fyou Ozzie Guillen". Killa, you're amazing dude. But he's not wrong. I remember Ozzie saying that, and being pissed at him. Mrs. Al Lopez's Ghost still hasn't forgiven him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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