Dick Allen Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 20, 2017 -> 12:56 PM) So Melky in his age 32 season hitting .284, 17, 79 and has good advanced stats. Never been one of my favorites until this season when he stayed in the game despite getting hit in the face with a ball. I won't blast him because except for the BA he has Avi-like numbers but in this message board world, Melky is certainly beloved by Sox fans while a younger guy like Davidson who is trying to figure it out is not so loved. Although the poster who started the thread did praise him for his perseverance and putting up some decent numbers in his first season. So I'm assuming we all want Melky back even at 33? Cause that's a guy we like, right? I guess if he were to get too much money he'd be hated on the board and we'd want no part of him, but I'm assuming everybody is thinking 2 years about 5-6 million a year which is OK in Sox fanland. Melky isn't coming back unless he is willing to play for peanuts. And even then it's pretty questionable. He would be on the list, but probably not near the top. Hahn said he was good for the young players. I would think playing for next to nothing, and Jose Abreu being on another team are 2 big ingredients in a Melky return. Edited September 20, 2017 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 The Sox will only be signing guys that provide depth, value (to potentially trade later) or fit into their long term plans. Someone like Melky is good enough to get a better offer from another team, there is no reason for the Sox to sign him unless it's an absolute steal of a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 20, 2017 -> 12:56 PM) So Melky in his age 32 season hitting .284, 17, 79 and has good advanced stats. Never been one of my favorites until this season when he stayed in the game despite getting hit in the face with a ball. I won't blast him because except for the BA he has Avi-like numbers but in this message board world, Melky is certainly beloved by Sox fans while a younger guy like Davidson who is trying to figure it out is not so loved. Although the poster who started the thread did praise him for his perseverance and putting up some decent numbers in his first season. So I'm assuming we all want Melky back even at 33? Cause that's a guy we like, right? I guess if he were to get too much money he'd be hated on the board and we'd want no part of him, but I'm assuming everybody is thinking 2 years about 5-6 million a year which is OK in Sox fanland. His advanced stats suck. He has -.1 fWAR, mostly because he's one of the worst defensive outfielders in baseball. B-Ref has him at exactly 1 run above replacement, so it's not like fWAR is under-rating him. If you don't like those stats his OBP is a poor .325 (Yolmer can do that) and he has made an absurd 12 errors in the corner OF spot. That is Avi circa 2015 bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) Too many young guys need at bats. Really depends on if they move Garcia and/or Abreu this off-season and they wanted a cheap veteran on a 1-year deal. I would bet he signs with a contender though for cheap and to DH/see little time in LF. Edited September 20, 2017 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Melky was the only thing fun about this team for 2.5 years. He loved playing baseball visibly so much. I'd love that back, but I hate getting a guy one year too late. Paul Konerko, I just wanted him to retire as a sox. But I didn't enjoy that last year at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Sep 20, 2017 -> 07:04 PM) The Sox will only be signing guys that provide depth, value (to potentially trade later) or fit into their long term plans. Someone like Melky is good enough to get a better offer from another team, there is no reason for the Sox to sign him unless it's an absolute steal of a deal. So we've learned Melky's advanced stats reek (his traditional stats are very good this year, I'll give that to him; like I said I despised him before he showed that toughness after getting smashed in the face and staying in the game) and he's still "good enough to get a better offer from another team." I'm not defending Melky for sure; I'm not a Melkster fan cept for the abovementioned studly incident) but lets say somebody signs him at the age of 32 for four years, 48 million? Why would a team be that dumb? In Sox message board fans eyes, they would FREAK if the Sox signed some 32 year old for four years, 48 million. Most don't even want to sign Avi to a 5-year, 80 million dollar deal and he's much younger. So why would you, BigRuss, say Melky can get a team to sign him to a "better offer?" Why are other teams so dumb and Sox fans so smart? I'm sure Sox fans have Melky worth Mark Teahen type numbers. Maybe 3 years 15 million max; more like two years 10 million. Even that price would probably piss people off here. So why do you intimate Melky can get a good offer somewhere else? Why would that team be that dumb to sign a 32 year old to a 4, 5 year deal at about 10, 12 mill a year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 20, 2017 -> 07:30 PM) Melky was the only thing fun about this team for 2.5 years. He loved playing baseball visibly so much. I'd love that back, but I hate getting a guy one year too late. Paul Konerko, I just wanted him to retire as a sox. But I didn't enjoy that last year at all. I happen to think Avi (and Abreu for the most part) have been pretty fun this past year. I think they show they love the game as well. Avi especially looks like a guy having a blast. He hustles. I disagree with your first sentence big time. The only thing fun about this team was Melky the past 2.5 years?? Sale was fun too; and Q was pretty fun for the most part. Maybe you meant the entire 2.5 year period; Avi of course was only good this season and Sale wasn't here this season and Q was only here half this season. Edited September 20, 2017 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 20, 2017 -> 03:14 PM) I happen to think Avi (and Abreu for the most part) have been pretty fun this past year. I think they show they love the game as well. Avi especially looks like a guy having a blast. He hustles. I disagree with your first sentence big time. The only thing fun about this team was Melky the past 2.5 years?? Sale was fun too; and Q was pretty fun for the most part. Maybe you meant the entire 2.5 year period; Avi of course was only good this season and Sale wasn't here this season and Q was only here half this season. The player who seems to have the most fun out there, at least from the games I've attended, was Leury Garcia. You could see it in his step and the way he interacted with fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 QUOTE (ptatc @ Sep 20, 2017 -> 05:59 PM) The player who seems to have the most fun out there, at least from the games I've attended, was Leury Garcia. You could see it in his step and the way he interacted with fans. Speaking of Leury what the heck happened to him to be out so long. Worried about my AAP. Also would give anyone 3-1 odds Melky will not be back. Would be shocked if the Sox get any veteran bat . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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