caulfield12 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 31, 2017 -> 02:38 PM) Seems like the price for pitching has gone done. Glad Rick made the moves when he did for Q and Sale. Plus two horrific Darvish starts before the deadline.... How long does Ryu's contract last? That's a ton of payroll for starting pitching, like our 2006-07 teams... Edited July 31, 2017 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 31, 2017 -> 04:14 PM) I understand that this may put LA over the top, but in terms of the trade itself, I just feel as though the baseball world is generally overvaluing 3 months of Darvish and underrating Calhoun as a prospect. Calhoun does not really have a defensive position and grades poorly in the field and with arm strength. He's likely a dh long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 31, 2017 -> 06:01 PM) Calhoun does not really have a defensive position and grades poorly in the field and with arm strength. He's likely a dh long term. Right, but a DH with his hitting potential is still valuable IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 31, 2017 -> 08:15 PM) Right, but a DH with his hitting potential is still valuable IMO. But so is Yu Darvish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 31, 2017 -> 10:23 PM) But so is Yu Darvish Sure, but once people look past his name and realize that he's not having a very good season, maybe my viewpoint would make more sense. 3 months of mediocrity in the form of a once dominant pitcher is obviously not cheap, but Calhoun's potential is as high as can be for a DH type. Sure, his value takes a hit by his lack of real position, but it is extremely rare for somebody to have the potential to not only be a power hitter with a high average, but to also take many walks and rarely strike out. That combination is almost unheard of and can be lethal. Edited August 1, 2017 by Jose Abreu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 31, 2017 -> 10:30 PM) Sure, but once people look past his name and realize that he's not having a very good season, maybe my viewpoint would make more sense. 3 months of mediocrity in the form of a once dominant pitcher is obviously not cheap, but Calhoun's potential is as high as can be for a DH type. Sure, his value takes a hit by his lack of real position, but it is extremely rare for somebody to have the potential to not only be a power hitter with a high average, but to also take many walks and rarely strike out. That combination is almost unheard of and can be lethal. All hit/no field players dont' have much value in today's game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2017 -> 10:48 PM) All hit/no field players dont' have much value in today's game. I know. I guess I'm just more sold than most on the potential in his bat. And, you never know, there's a chance he still makes it somewhere in the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 I think Calhoun is good, but the Dodgers wanted a good pitcher mid season for a playoff stretch run. Those specific three months hold a lot of value. Plus Darvish gets to move to NL with a dominant pen and play in Dodger stadium. He could pitch 5 innings and rest up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxforlife05 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 31, 2017 -> 03:14 PM) I understand that this may put LA over the top, but in terms of the trade itself, I just feel as though the baseball world is generally overvaluing 3 months of Darvish and underrating Calhoun as a prospect. No one is underrating Calhoun. He clearly has a major league bat but he's been pretty bad defensively. His bat will have to be very good for him to be an impact DH if he can't stick in the infield. Although his minor league offensive numbers have been good enough to think he can be that type of DH. He has more value to an AL team which is why this deal happened. I was just looking at his swing and he has a very noticeable hitch. Not sure how that hasn't been exploited yet. Edited August 2, 2017 by soxforlife05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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