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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 19, 2017 -> 03:35 PM)
I’m still laughing at how terrible that kick was. And he did that body twist like “it’s gonna hook and come back” LMAO

 

I was certain that it was blocked. I thought there was no way he could.kick it that bad without someone getting a hand on it. I was wrong.

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 19, 2017 -> 01:35 PM)
I’m still laughing at how terrible that kick was. And he did that body twist like “it’s gonna hook and come back” LMAO

Yeah, that was like when you push a drive straight right into the f***ing water and lean left like the damn thing is going to draw back into the fairway.

 

When you don't have a draw.

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Crazy how this 2018 QB class went from can't miss to meh. If Bears are top 5 and the QBs stock for 2-3 is still high, they could do well to trade down and recoup.

 

Looking forward to new coach. I think Pace hopefully is learning on job. But if I was fox I would be pissed over the kicker situation and the bargain basement hunting on cornerbacks.

 

We wouldn't be a playoff team either year, but with a real kicker I could see 3-4 more wins on Fox's resume.

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Outside of Floyd's injury, that was a solid game. Trubisky looked like he's making strides and we got close enough to blow it with a kicker who won't be around long-term. I still am a fan of continuity so I think it sucks we didn't take bigger steps forward this year, albeit, I still see us winning a few games late (given the schedule). Loggains called a much better game this week. I also will also stick to my guns that things could be worse...we could have handled our QB situation like Cleveland / Buffalo.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 07:43 AM)
Crazy how this 2018 QB class went from can't miss to meh. If Bears are top 5 and the QBs stock for 2-3 is still high, they could do well to trade down and recoup.

 

Looking forward to new coach. I think Pace hopefully is learning on job. But if I was fox I would be pissed over the kicker situation and the bargain basement hunting on cornerbacks.

 

We wouldn't be a playoff team either year, but with a real kicker I could see 3-4 more wins on Fox's resume.

Darnauld / Rosen still go top 5, imo. I am hoping one of the QB's is there when we are picking and we can move down to accumulate some picks. I really hope Floyd's injury is not as bad as it seemed.

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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 10:25 AM)
Darnauld / Rosen still go top 5, imo. I am hoping one of the QB's is there when we are picking and we can move down to accumulate some picks. I really hope Floyd's injury is not as bad as it seemed.

 

They'll go top 5, but after we picked Trubisky people were saying we should have waited and tanked this year because at that time this was considered a possible 2003 QB draft.

 

They'll be drafted high because the best QBs always do, but I don't think people feel they are can't miss like they used to.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 08:39 AM)
They'll go top 5, but after we picked Trubisky people were saying we should have waited and tanked this year because at that time this was considered a possible 2003 QB draft.

 

They'll be drafted high because the best QBs always do, but I don't think people feel they are can't miss like they used to.

Agree with everything you said. I'm perfectly fine with Trubisky. He seems to be learning and that is a good thing. He needs a boot camp to get his footwork corrected when under pressure but he was so much better against pressure this week then any previous week. Lions D isn't that good, but he actually had a pretty high completion rate under duress this week and he got rid of the ball much quicker at times. Helped that Kyle Long was back (outside of that awful penalty).

 

Marcus Wheaton was actually open those two bad throws from Trubisky...would be nice to get a Wheaton sighting as he has talent (imo). Inman makes the receiving corps so much better (not that it says much). They at least have two wideouts who are NFL players now (not counting Wheaton who has not been able to stay on the field). Any updates on White...we should see him back to practice pretty quick (if he has a chance at getting out there).

 

Shaheen actually got me excited...showed some solid hands and playmaking ability. Also saw him make a couple nice blocks.

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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 10:24 AM)
Outside of Floyd's injury, that was a solid game. Trubisky looked like he's making strides and we got close enough to blow it with a kicker who won't be around long-term. I still am a fan of continuity so I think it sucks we didn't take bigger steps forward this year, albeit, I still see us winning a few games late (given the schedule). Loggains called a much better game this week. I also will also stick to my guns that things could be worse...we could have handled our QB situation like Cleveland / Buffalo.

Cleveland's drafting is just horrific. So far they've only hit on a cant-miss pass rusher. Their handling of QB and S were just stupid moronic decisions.

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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 10:48 AM)
Agree with everything you said. I'm perfectly fine with Trubisky. He seems to be learning and that is a good thing. He needs a boot camp to get his footwork corrected when under pressure but he was so much better against pressure this week then any previous week. Lions D isn't that good, but he actually had a pretty high completion rate under duress this week and he got rid of the ball much quicker at times. Helped that Kyle Long was back (outside of that awful penalty).

 

Marcus Wheaton was actually open those two bad throws from Trubisky...would be nice to get a Wheaton sighting as he has talent (imo). Inman makes the receiving corps so much better (not that it says much). They at least have two wideouts who are NFL players now (not counting Wheaton who has not been able to stay on the field). Any updates on White...we should see him back to practice pretty quick (if he has a chance at getting out there).

 

Shaheen actually got me excited...showed some solid hands and playmaking ability. Also saw him make a couple nice blocks.

 

It did help that long was back. I'm not sure Grasu survives another year. We were noticeably worse on inside runs and tosses with Grasu in there.

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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 11:05 AM)
Cleveland's drafting is just horrific. So far they've only hit on a cant-miss pass rusher. Their handling of QB and S were just stupid moronic decisions.

 

I have to wonder how much is development. The Browns have actually done what you are supposed to do the last decade. THey have picked a lot, made good trades for picks.

 

They've...drafted a lotta garbage.

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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 10:48 AM)
Agree with everything you said. I'm perfectly fine with Trubisky. He seems to be learning and that is a good thing. He needs a boot camp to get his footwork corrected when under pressure but he was so much better against pressure this week then any previous week. Lions D isn't that good, but he actually had a pretty high completion rate under duress this week and he got rid of the ball much quicker at times. Helped that Kyle Long was back (outside of that awful penalty).

 

Marcus Wheaton was actually open those two bad throws from Trubisky...would be nice to get a Wheaton sighting as he has talent (imo). Inman makes the receiving corps so much better (not that it says much). They at least have two wideouts who are NFL players now (not counting Wheaton who has not been able to stay on the field). Any updates on White...we should see him back to practice pretty quick (if he has a chance at getting out there).

 

Shaheen actually got me excited...showed some solid hands and playmaking ability. Also saw him make a couple nice blocks.

 

Unless wheaton absolutely explodes in the next 5 weeks he is a goner. He is gonna get 5M next season, and he has one catch and i believe 3 drops, and has been injured for all but three games this season.

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I listened to the OB, Hampton and Koz show yesterday, and again according to them, the loss was all John Fox. I think Fox needs to go, but these guys are getting ridiculous, especially since the person they want to replace him and supposedly is one of the worlds greatest offensive minds, just got fired today as OC of the Broncos. Apparently it isn't his fault they haven't scored 20 points in 7 of their last 8 games.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 09:34 AM)
I have to wonder how much is development. The Browns have actually done what you are supposed to do the last decade. THey have picked a lot, made good trades for picks.

 

They've...drafted a lotta garbage.

They've drafted a lot of garbage, but they've also had a consistent turnover in their front offices. New regimes have strong biases towards their players so if you are consistently changing regimes you are consistently turning over entire rosters, which just makes things so much harder to succeed. The best franchises have had long-term stability. Sometimes I legitimately wonder how much "smarter" the better franchises are then the others or if it is more they are just more patient and think more "long". You really put yourself at a disadvantage when you are consistently kicking people to the curb. Look at the Bengals (and yes, they suck this year), but they stuck with Marvin Lewis and their franchise was largely stabilized (especially relative to what it was). The Raiders could have axed Reggie McKenzie (and while they are having a bad year), early in McKenzie's tenure, they decided to stick with him and give him the "long" play and while the Raiders are struggling this year, their long-term track outlook still looks pretty positive.

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 09:43 AM)
Unless wheaton absolutely explodes in the next 5 weeks he is a goner. He is gonna get 5M next season, and he has one catch and i believe 3 drops, and has been injured for all but three games this season.

I agree he's a goner, I just want to see more weapons for Trubisky to throw to (to get a better idea of his growth, etc).

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You know what worries me about Cooter (Lions OC), the stat that they haven't had a 100 yard rusher in 60+ games. How is that even possible? I truly believe that to win in this league, you need to be able to run the football (especially somewhere like Chicago). It isn't like the Lions haven't invested in running backs (they've draft a decent number of them).

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