thxfrthmmrs Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 1, 2018 -> 04:47 PM) Sean Payton 2014-2016 They did make the playoffs 5 out of the last 9 seasons though, and that definitely happens few and far in between. When you have a franchise QB, you have a much better chance to succeed. Saying Fox was a good coach when he had a franchise QB (a record setting offense to boot) just shows that he's capable of doing what most coaches could do, does not in fact suggest he's a good coach. I think letting Fox go is the right call here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 1, 2018 -> 02:02 PM) While I usually agree with that, it seems like the tide has changed a little recently. Did Jared Goff become a franchise QB overnight or is he getting coached up so well? The Vikings have had Sam Bradford and Case Keenum all year and are the 2 seed. None of the 4 AFC quarterbacks playing this weekend are franchise QBs by any means. The Vikings also have one of the best defenses in the league, plus actual weapons on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 1, 2018 -> 04:32 PM) Wow, that is pretty ridiculous. When was his contract up anyways? Pace’s contract was up next year along with Fox’s. Now his contract will match with his next coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 1, 2018 -> 06:15 PM) Pace’s contract was up next year along with Fox’s. Now his contract will match with his next coach Makes sense, should have realized there was an explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 1, 2018 -> 06:15 PM) Pace’s contract was up next year along with Fox’s. Now his contract will match with his next coach Yeah, once they decided to retain him, the extension was standard procedure, no.big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 1, 2018 -> 06:29 PM) Makes sense, should have realized there was an explanation. That probably is the reason, but Ted Phillips was pretty busy listing all the things Ryan Pace has accomplished since joining the Bears. I listen to Hampton, OB and Koz after each game, and the Bears could win 50-0 over New Ngland, those guys would make it seem like they got killed. This was the exact opposite. When Phillips was speaking, you would have thought Pace had this team in the Super Bowl every year. I just don't see how Fox can get fired for going 14-34, and Pace gets extended when even he himself said that a lot of that was on him. I guess it's so someone won't freak out and not come on board because they think a new GM is one 7-9 season away. And I suppose even if they had to eat a couple or three years of money and dump him, it probably isn't anywhere near as much money as they blew on Glennon. But if the Bears are 7-9 or 6-10 next year, why would they continue with this guy? His job should depend on winning some games at some point. I hope we are at that point now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) Pace gets a shot because he has drafted some outstanding young players the last two years: Whitehair, Howard, Tarik, Shaheen, Jackson, Carson to name a few. Need Floyd to develop and Trubiskey to be a franchise guy, but after Pace's lackluster 2015 draft class where he really only got one good player, he has landed some players to build around. That said he has made his share of gaffs as well....he needs a killer draft and off-season, starting with nailing down a great coach. I'd be a John Fox fan if the NFL would dump instant replay. LOL Edited January 2, 2018 by kwolf68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Jan 1, 2018 -> 09:17 PM) Need Floyd to develop and Trubiskey to be a franchise guy, but after Pace's lackluster 2015 draft class where he really only got one good player, he has landed some players to build around. That said he has made his share of gaffs as well....he needs a killer draft and off-season, starting with nailing down a great coach. He didn't have alot of his guys (scouts, personnel, etc) yet. Bears hired him so late in the draft process. I don't put the '15 draft on him as much as others do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 The dome in Minneapolis, if you want to call it a dome, is spectacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Give me McDaniels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Chris EmmaVerified account @CEmma670 14h14 hours ago Josh McDaniels has good intel to the Bears' opportunity. His brother, Ben, has worked as an offensive analyst with the team the last two seasons. He can speak well to their situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 670 The ScoreVerified account @670TheScore 42m42 minutes ago #Bears have reportedly requested interviews for coaching vacancy with Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels and Vikings offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur http://cbsloc.al/2DPNKKE via @CEmma670 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Doesn't McDaniels want control over the 53? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 2, 2018 -> 12:28 PM) Doesn't McDaniels want control over the 53? Meet with him and ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 2, 2018 -> 11:28 AM) Doesn't McDaniels want control over the 53? I believe so (which he had in Denver and Belichick has now) so that may hit a snag there since Pace has already said he is the one who will have control in his presser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 2, 2018 -> 11:29 AM) Meet with him and ask? What is the point of your post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I dont see how McDaniels can ask for control of the 53 man roster after the dumpster fire he left in his wake in Denver. I would give him input, but there would be no way in hell i would cede control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 2, 2018 -> 11:42 AM) I dont see how McDaniels can ask for control of the 53 man roster after the dumpster fire he left in his wake in Denver. I would give him input, but there would be no way in hell i would cede control. Yeah, it scares me that there was no "lesson learned" there. But I am much higher on this version of Belicheck assistants, who have had much more time under Belicheck and how that team is arranged. I'd be pro-Patricia. I like his all around the field background and think it lends itself well to HC position. But obviously he'd need a guru. I would love to know how McDaniels is viewed in coaching circles as far as having connections. If he's well liked and well connected or what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 2, 2018 -> 11:50 AM) Yeah, it scares me that there was no "lesson learned" there. But I am much higher on this version of Belicheck assistants, who have had much more time under Belicheck and how that team is arranged. I'd be pro-Patricia. I like his all around the field background and think it lends itself well to HC position. But obviously he'd need a guru. I would love to know how McDaniels is viewed in coaching circles as far as having connections. If he's well liked and well connected or what More than Weis and Crennel? I dunno man, Belichecks coaching tree hasnt really done much without him. Its hard for me to get behind anyone that has coached under him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 2, 2018 -> 11:53 AM) More than Weis and Crennel? I dunno man, Belichecks coaching tree hasnt really done much without him. Its hard for me to get behind anyone that has coached under him Yeah I guess I was thinking just in terms of offensive coordinator timing but you are right weis was with him for like 10 years. I guess there is no reason to believe this time it's different but I still kinda believe it is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 The Eagles QB coach DeFilippo sounds intriguing simply due to the offensive success in Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 2, 2018 -> 11:42 AM) I dont see how McDaniels can ask for control of the 53 man roster after the dumpster fire he left in his wake in Denver. I would give him input, but there would be no way in hell i would cede control. Agreed on the control part, but let's not hold what he did 9 years ago as a 32 year old head coach as the end all. From all accounts, he has really matured now and there's no questioning his pedigree as a tactician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 2, 2018 -> 09:39 AM) What is the point of your post? I think Brian's point is that you might as well meet with him and have the conversation and then go from there. I have always thought it is best to have a front office and HC who are aligned, but the ultimate say of the roster should rest with the GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 2, 2018 -> 12:13 PM) I think Brian's point is that you might as well meet with him and have the conversation and then go from there. I have always thought it is best to have a front office and HC who are aligned, but the ultimate say of the roster should rest with the GM. I’m not advocating they don’t meet with him, I’m just asking if he was still on that as he was last year with 49ers because it makes it unlikely he comes here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 2, 2018 -> 02:13 PM) I think Brian's point is that you might as well meet with him and have the conversation and then go from there. I have always thought it is best to have a front office and HC who are aligned, but the ultimate say of the roster should rest with the GM. There you go. If he can't work with someone else and he says that in the meeting, that would make me strongly question whether his hiring would end up much like it did in Denver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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