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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 02:06 PM)
Yes he is the biggest extension that early ever. And the extensions you came up with were nowhere near the $100 million you earlier claimed. A lot would have had to go right for an extension to cost $20 million more than what Anderson signed. He would have had to play a lot better.

 

Francisco Lindor doesn't count? Hmmm. And the rest is the entire point. If he had played well, he would have been in line for a lot bigger contract. This theory is quite literally the seeds of this rebuild. If the Sox don't offer very early extensions to Sale, Eaton, and Q, we are no where in our rebuild. If we had waited another year for those guys too, it would have been a lot more expensive.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 02:08 PM)
Francisco Lindor doesn't count? Hmmm. And the rest is the entire point. If he had played well, he would have been in line for a lot bigger contract. This theory is quite literally the seeds of this rebuild. If the Sox don't offer very early extensions to Sale, Eaton, and Q, we are no where in our rebuild. If we had waited another year for those guys too, it would have been a lot more expensive.

Since when has anyone ever put Tim Anderson in Francisco Lindor's area code? That's insane. Lindor turned down an extension after 2 years much better than Anderson's first year. 4.5 WAR in 99 games, then a 6.3 WAR. Do you really think Tim Anderson can be that? And the Sox didn't give the extensions to those players the same time they gave Anderson his. It's pretty obvious they jumped the gun. No team had ever done what the White Sox did. Ever. Maybe it works out in the end. I just think if it is so brilliant, Tim Anderson wouldn't be the record holder. I don't want to kick him while he is down, but there were red flags with him. He does have ability, without a doubt. But not Francisco Lindor ability or baseball acumen.

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 02:26 PM)
Since when has anyone ever put Tim Anderson in Francisco Lindor's area code? That's insane. Lindor turned down an extension after 2 years much better than Anderson's first year. 4.5 WAR in 99 games, then a 6.3 WAR. Do you really think Tim Anderson can be that? And the Sox didn't give the extensions to those players the same time they gave Anderson his. It's pretty obvious they jumped the gun. No team had ever done what the White Sox did. Ever. Maybe it works out in the end. I just think if it is so brilliant, Tim Anderson wouldn't be the record holder. I don't want to kick him while he is down, but there were red flags with him. He does have ability, without a doubt. But not Francisco Lindor ability or baseball acumen.

 

It is incredibly easy to draw the artificial lines in hindsight. Quitting on Anderson now is a horrible idea.

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Other notables. Worth noting here is that Anderson's deal isn't even close to the biggest offered, it is just the biggest signed.

 

Odor turned down 6/35, turned it into 6/49.5

Sterling Marte turned down 7/25 in his first year, turned it into 6/31

After his second year (which is where Anderson would be now) McCutchen got 6/51.5

Polonco before he was even called up to Pittsburgh turned down an 8/75 deal that included 3 option years which would have tripled Anderson's dollars.

Mookie Betts shutdown extension talks at a similar point to Anderson, no doubt that deal would have destroyed Anderson's as well.

Jonathon Villar turned down a similar extension to Anderson's without any option years

Jean Segura also turned down a similar extension

George Springer turned down a 7 year 23 million deal before he saw a single major league pitch

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 02:41 PM)
It is incredibly easy to draw the artificial lines in hindsight. Quitting on Anderson now is a horrible idea.

Who is quitting on him? I do think if you went back to the thread on this signing, you would find my opinion is not one of hindsight.

 

It's not a killer by any stretch, but a good deal for him to sign as opposed to others.

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