Dick Allen Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Aug 5, 2017 -> 06:52 PM) Absolutely. Fans should be counting their blessings he's here to pretty much guarantee a loss every start. I agree. He helped the Sox draft with his pitching last year, and this. And since he rarely lasts very long, he kills the bullpen for more losses when he is watching from the dugout. He should be a hero to those that want the Sox to lose for draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 QUOTE (Insp @ Aug 5, 2017 -> 07:04 PM) If Smith had any discipline, the count would be 3-1 right now, instead he wildly swing at 2 pitches that were clearly outside the zone. If he had all this discipline, he wouldn't be 29 years old with less than 200 career plate appearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) I have no respect for Shields, no pride. He's stealing a paycheck and should be ashamed of himself. He brings a whole new meaning to the word "greed". The only answer is to eat the rest of his contract. Edited August 6, 2017 by The Mighty Mite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 QUOTE (The Mighty Mite @ Aug 5, 2017 -> 07:11 PM) I have no respect for Shields, no pride. He stealing a paycheck and should be ashamed of himself. He brings a whole new meaning to the word "greed". The only answer is to eat the rest of his contract. He is trying. He just doesn't have the stuff anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 5, 2017 -> 06:12 PM) He is trying. He just doesn't have the stuff anymore. As Dirty Harry said; "a man has to know his limitations". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 QUOTE (The Mighty Mite @ Aug 5, 2017 -> 07:14 PM) As Dirty Harry said; "a man has to know his limitations". Maybe, but I think you are trying to say he should retire. If Shields was 30-0 with an ERA below 1.00, I doubt the Padres or the White Sox would say, you know what, you are outperforming the contract, lets rip it up, and pay you more. So why should he walk away from the money guaranteed to him just because either Father Time and or injury have taken their toll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insp Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Right now it looks as if DelMonico's efforts are beng wasted with this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 5, 2017 -> 06:19 PM) Maybe, but I think you are trying to say he should retire. If Shields was 30-0 with an ERA below 1.00, I doubt the Padres or the White Sox would say, you know what, you are outperforming the contract, lets rip it up, and pay you more. So why should he walk away from the money guaranteed to him just because either Father Time and or injury have taken their toll? I know it's hard to walk away from the $$$ but I go back to pride and greed. This guy has already made millions, how much better is he going to live if he hangs around until his contract is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 QUOTE (The Mighty Mite @ Aug 5, 2017 -> 07:28 PM) I know it's hard to walk away from the $$$ but I go back to pride and greed. This guy has already made millions, how much better is he going to live if he hangs around until his contract is over. I would take my lumps for $23 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 5, 2017 -> 06:30 PM) I would take my lumps for $23 million. Is it that much? I thought he had a year left at 12 million. EDIT.....per Baseball Reference he gets 21 million in 2018 with the Padres picking up 11 million, 2019 there is a 2 million buyout. Edited August 6, 2017 by The Mighty Mite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 QUOTE (The Mighty Mite @ Aug 5, 2017 -> 07:28 PM) I know it's hard to walk away from the $$$ but I go back to pride and greed. This guy has already made millions, how much better is he going to live if he hangs around until his contract is over. So you would retire in his situation? I highly doubt you would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Wow Timmy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Love it Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 QUOTE (The Mighty Mite @ Aug 5, 2017 -> 07:28 PM) I know it's hard to walk away from the $$$ but I go back to pride and greed. This guy has already made millions, how much better is he going to live if he hangs around until his contract is over. Not everyone is Adam LaRoche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Aug 5, 2017 -> 06:33 PM) So you would retire in his situation? I highly doubt you would. You have no idea what I would do, everything is relative, back in 1993 I gave up quite a few years in pension time and took an early retirement so I could move to Florida and never put up with another winter in Chiago. Edited August 6, 2017 by The Mighty Mite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 QUOTE (The Mighty Mite @ Aug 5, 2017 -> 07:41 PM) You have no idea what I would do, everything is relative, back in 1993 I gave up quite a few years in pension time and took an early retirement so I could move to Florida and never put up with another winter in Chiago. Yes, but you probably planned your retirement with that amount. I am sure Shields has some sophisticated financial planners and such that have already worked the $23 million into his retirement. He might not ever need it, but you never know. Walking away from $23 million is something g not many would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Don't think Leury and Moncada have any clue vs his curve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 5, 2017 -> 06:54 PM) Yes, but you probably planned your retirement with that amount. I am sure Shields has some sophisticated financial planners and such that have already worked the $23 million into his retirement. He might not ever need it, but you never know. Walking away from $23 million is something g not many would do. One thing we can be damn sure on is that his agent is telling him; don't you dare retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Wow.. what a series for Delmonico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 6, 2017 -> 12:12 AM) He is trying. He just doesn't have the stuff anymore. Agreed.Shields is trying to reinvent himself butchered am not sure he has enough left to do it Edited August 6, 2017 by elrockinMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Team is unbelievably bad at running the bases. Something that has to drastically improve in the coming years if they want to contend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insp Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Leave it to Anderson.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 QUOTE (Insp @ Aug 6, 2017 -> 02:14 AM) Leave it to Anderson.................... He did nothing wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 6, 2017 -> 01:17 AM) He did nothing wrong He hit a liner to the opposite field. That part was good. Hansen got caught to far off the bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I'm not sure ive seen a team lose this much.... like 2 wins since the all star break? I can't remember anything like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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