HeHatesShe Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Eloy realized mashing 1.100 OPS wasn't getting him promoted. 0-10 the last two games? Promotion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 True, they should have demoted him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHatesShe Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 15, 2017 -> 01:48 PM) True, they should have demoted him. That'd be silly. I was simply pointing out the coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Aug 15, 2017 -> 10:17 AM) I think Gio and Kopech are up once the Sox secure the extra year of control. I'd be tempted to let Kopech start the year in the Sox rotation Kopech's IP: 2015 - 65 , 2016- 78.2. 2017- 119.1 Kopech needs one more season to build up those innings which I'm guessing the 2018 target to be around 160-175. Depending on how many innings Kopech pitches for Charlotte next year, I can see the Sox calling him up in September if he's got some innings to spare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaDoc Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Did Kopech throw in the instructional league last year? If so it won't be as much of a jump in innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 QUOTE (BamaDoc @ Aug 15, 2017 -> 03:47 PM) Did Kopech throw in the instructional league last year? If so it won't be as much of a jump in innings. In the regular season and AFL last year, Michael Kopech threw 78.2 IP. He is 40 above that right now. He is going to get shutdown very quickly, I'd say one or two more starts at most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 15, 2017 -> 04:14 PM) In the regular season and AFL last year, Michael Kopech threw 78.2 IP. He is 40 above that right now. He is going to get shutdown very quickly, I'd say one or two more starts at most. He only has about 3 starts, maybe 4 at the most this year anyway. My guess is he makes all of them. If his velocity or stuff were suffering they would have shut him down any time now, but he seems to be getting better not worse... so the Sox will let him keep going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 15, 2017 -> 03:15 PM) He only has about 3 starts, maybe 4 at the most this year anyway. My guess is he makes all of them. If his velocity or stuff were suffering they would have shut him down any time now, but he seems to be getting better not worse... so the Sox will let him keep going. I agree^ Let Kopech finish out the season strong with another 3-4 starts and then shut him down until 2018. He has made significant strides this season. 140 innings or so would be a great accomplishment for him at age 21. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Aug 15, 2017 -> 10:17 AM) I think Gio and Kopech are up once the Sox secure the extra year of control. I'd be tempted to let Kopech start the year in the Sox rotation Ain't gonna happen. I'd be blown away if the Kopech throws a pitch in the majors before next September, and actually surprised if he even pitches for the Sox at all next season. 2019 is the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 15, 2017 Author Share Posted August 15, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Aug 15, 2017 -> 04:51 PM) Ain't gonna happen. I'd be blown away if the Kopech throws a pitch in the majors before next September, and actually surprised if he even pitches for the Sox at all next season. 2019 is the year. Really? I could definitely see him dominating AAA next year (even in that ballpark) and forcing our hand in June/July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Kopech, IF he dominates like Lopez and shows consistency at AAA, could be up next year but not until late July IMO. I say it's a stretch though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Kopech is the best pitching prospect in baseball, if he's dominant next April & May in AAA, the Sox will have no choice but calling him. And I don't think it's that crazy of an outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 15, 2017 -> 06:57 PM) Kopech is the best pitching prospect in baseball, if he's dominant next April & May in AAA, the Sox will have no choice but calling him. And I don't think it's that crazy of an outcome. It's not. Basically 50/50 that happens. I want to say no way before Super 2, but if he's THAT dominant, to hell with that as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Aug 15, 2017 -> 09:38 AM) Dan Hayes @CSNHayes Eloy Jimenez and Zack Collins are both being promoted from Double-A Birmingham from Single-A Winston-Salem. #WhiteSox Who will take their place on the W-S roster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 QUOTE (Donaldo @ Aug 15, 2017 -> 07:42 PM) Who will take their place on the W-S roster? There are plenty of choices at Kannapolis. You could see a Micker Adolfo for one, another option would be Rutherford. Maybe Casey Schroeder for Catcher? There is a jam of catchers at the Rookie ball level that could move up to Kanny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmmbeeer Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 QUOTE (kingranch @ Aug 15, 2017 -> 12:00 PM) Kopech should start on the 18th Thanks, man. I live NW of ATL so BHam is only an hour and a half..two hours from the house. Been wanting to go check out the Barons on a Kopech night but the rest of the roster was never anyone warranting the drive. With Jiminez and Collins up, Kopech night would be great to catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Should have been zavala getting promoted. Collins has been pretty underwhelming this year. Lousy move Hahn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Aug 15, 2017 -> 11:13 PM) Thanks, man. I live NW of ATL so BHam is only an hour and a half..two hours from the house. Been wanting to go check out the Barons on a Kopech night but the rest of the roster was never anyone warranting the drive. With Jiminez and Collins up, Kopech night would be great to catch. Nice, let us know if you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoedairy Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 QUOTE (KnightsOnMintSt @ Aug 15, 2017 -> 10:01 AM) I will really enjoy watching the Charlotte rotation next year. Potentially starting the season with a rotation of: 1. Giolito 2. Kopech 3. Stephens 4. Guerrero 5. Adams I think Adams stays in AA for the start of next season. Also don't think Giolito will be in Charlotte long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnSoxFan Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Donaldo @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 12:42 AM) Who will take their place on the W-S roster? Toby Thomas went from Birm down to W-S to take one of the spots. Edited August 16, 2017 by MnSoxFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I had Zavala on my midseason list but this is craziness. He went from underrated to overrated pretty quickly. He's 24 years old at High A and there's definite concern that he's not a major league catcher. He can hit but in no universe is he the caliber of prospect that Zack Collins is. These things aren't mutually exclusive. Every time Collins gets mentioned, Zavala doesn't need to be brought up. They will likely share time in Birmingham next year as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Señor Ding-Dong Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Slightly off topic, but speaking of Birmingham I just looked over their roster and checked Courtney Hawkins and Keon Barnum's stats. Good lord. I knew they were bad, but jeez. With Hawkins, is moving him to pitcher a legitimate possibility or are we just gonna leave him in the OF until we're either forced to release him or, by some miracle, he figures it out? If we do try him on the mound, I would think that move would have to be made as soon as this season ends, as he's not getting any younger. I remember reading a speculative article about it on FutureSox awhile back. Barnum's days as a member of the Sox organization are probably numbered, but he has hit 16 dingers through 82 games during his second try at AA so maybe he can cut down his strikeouts and make more contact, but I doubt it. Hawkins, Barnum, Keenyn Walker and Jared Mitchell... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 12:49 PM) I had Zavala on my midseason list but this is craziness. He went from underrated to overrated pretty quickly. He's 24 years old at High A and there's definite concern that he's not a major league catcher. He can hit but in no universe is he the caliber of prospect that Zack Collins is. These things aren't mutually exclusive. Every time Collins gets mentioned, Zavala doesn't need to be brought up. They will likely share time in Birmingham next year as well. Zavala is 23 actually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 12:49 PM) I had Zavala on my midseason list but this is craziness. He went from underrated to overrated pretty quickly. He's 24 years old at High A and there's definite concern that he's not a major league catcher. He can hit but in no universe is he the caliber of prospect that Zack Collins is. These things aren't mutually exclusive. Every time Collins gets mentioned, Zavala doesn't need to be brought up. They will likely share time in Birmingham next year as well. Age is much less important for catchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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