Ducksnort Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Not gonna lie guys, I think the Sox are gonna score some runs next year. This is exciting to think about right now because the offense is hitting, but what I think is so unique about this bunch is they have a good balance of different tools they can choose from. They have the ability to hit homeruns, but they also have speed and quite a bit of contact guys. They also have a good mix of righties and lefties. Renteria can do a lot with this bunch. Check out this potential starting lineup... 1. Leury Garcia LF 2. Moncada .....2B 3. Abreu .........1B/DH 4. Avi .............RF 5. Delmonico....DH/1B (He can learn 1B) 6. Davidson......3B 7. Anderson......SS 8. Smith/Omar...C 9. Engel............CF Lots of balance in that lineup. If we can get August 2017 Tim Anderson to play for 3-4 months out of the year, and if all those players put up offensive numbers like they have been to go along with the tools they are known for, then this team will be fun to watch, even if the bullpen blows all the games. Delmonico is also still a big question mark, but I'm let's ride that horse as far as it will take us. He is hitting like a 3-5 hitter right now. Power lefty bat? Yes please!! Bench= Yolmer (I see him platooning quite often with Davidson), Smith/Omar, Outfielder (Hansen?), and Saladino. What are your thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Sox Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) I hope Tilson or a similar fringy prospect can step up and at least be a platoon option for CF because Engel is not the answer. I wouldn't be surprised if we signed a low-cost reclamation project vet or two, with the idea of flipping them during the season. Edited August 19, 2017 by Dizzy Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 our current lineup isn't even that bad... We just have one of the worst pitching staffs every assembled... by design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 QUOTE (Scoots @ Aug 19, 2017 -> 01:03 PM) Not gonna lie guys, I think the Sox are gonna score some runs next year. This is exciting to think about right now because the offense is hitting, but what I think is so unique about this bunch is they have a good balance of different tools they can choose from. They have the ability to hit homeruns, but they also have speed and quite a bit of contact guys. They also have a good mix of righties and lefties. Renteria can do a lot with this bunch. Check out this potential starting lineup... 1. Leury Garcia LF 2. Moncada .....2B 3. Abreu .........1B/DH 4. Avi .............RF 5. Delmonico....DH/1B (He can learn 1B) 6. Davidson......3B 7. Anderson......SS 8. Smith/Omar...C 9. Engel............CF Lots of balance in that lineup. If we can get August 2017 Tim Anderson to play for 3-4 months out of the year, and if all those players put up offensive numbers like they have been to go along with the tools they are known for, then this team will be fun to watch, even if the bullpen blows all the games. Delmonico is also still a big question mark, but I'm let's ride that horse as far as it will take us. He is hitting like a 3-5 hitter right now. Power lefty bat? Yes please!! Bench= Yolmer (I see him platooning quite often with Davidson), Smith/Omar, Outfielder (Hansen?), and Saladino. What are your thoughts? That is pretty much the lineup the Sox have been using since the trade deadline and they are last in the AL, averaging 4 runs per game. So if all those players put up offensive numbers like they have been it will be pretty much the same as this season. We need a major improvement from Moncada, Avi needs another career year, Abreu can't slip and everyone else needs to improve a little except maybe Delmonico whom in fairness may be playing over his head. I think next year is another bad year where we get a good draft pick and hopefully see Moncada bust out and Anderson raise his average 20 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxforlife05 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 QUOTE (Dizzy Sox @ Aug 19, 2017 -> 11:37 AM) I hope Tilson or a similar fringy prospect can step up and at least be a platoon option for CF because Engel is not the answer. I wouldn't be surprised if we signed a low-cost reclamation project vet or two, with the idea of flipping them during the season. No Leury in CF with Cordell and other AAA OF like Liriano get looks in LF or Tilson in CF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 QUOTE (Scoots @ Aug 19, 2017 -> 12:03 PM) Not gonna lie guys, I think the Sox are gonna score some runs next year. This is exciting to think about right now because the offense is hitting, but what I think is so unique about this bunch is they have a good balance of different tools they can choose from. They have the ability to hit homeruns, but they also have speed and quite a bit of contact guys. They also have a good mix of righties and lefties. Renteria can do a lot with this bunch. Check out this potential starting lineup... 1. Leury Garcia LF 2. Moncada .....2B 3. Abreu .........1B/DH 4. Avi .............RF 5. Delmonico....DH/1B (He can learn 1B) 6. Davidson......3B 7. Anderson......SS 8. Smith/Omar...C 9. Engel............CF Lots of balance in that lineup. If we can get August 2017 Tim Anderson to play for 3-4 months out of the year, and if all those players put up offensive numbers like they have been to go along with the tools they are known for, then this team will be fun to watch, even if the bullpen blows all the games. Delmonico is also still a big question mark, but I'm let's ride that horse as far as it will take us. He is hitting like a 3-5 hitter right now. Power lefty bat? Yes please!! Bench= Yolmer (I see him platooning quite often with Davidson), Smith/Omar, Outfielder (Hansen?), and Saladino. What are your thoughts? Not really. Many of these guys are overperforming, so you want that to continue and basically everyone else to hit their ceiling? That's just not going to happen. It's likely one of the worst offense in the league, which is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I guess I'm in the camp that Tilson will never sniff the field with the big team. Just not counting on...or planning anything from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 1. L. Garcia, CF 2. Moncada, 2B 3. Abreu, 1B 4. Davidson, 3B 5. Delmonico, DH 6. W. Garcia, RF 7. Anderson, SS 8. Narvaez, C 9. Cordell, LF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 There's an awful lot of mediocre-to-bad outfield options to shake out, so I don't think we'll know for sure until after ST. Leury should start, unless he's traded, and i'm kind of working under the assumption that Avi will be traded. That gives us Engel, Cordell, Tilson, Willy Garcia, possibly Hanson, as well as any FA that are brought in (wouldn't mind a Granderson signing myself) to fill two spots. The IF is a bit more settled, with Davidson, Anderson, Moncada and Abreu presumably returning. Catcher is a wild card, but I guess it's Narvaez by default. Rodon will start, barring injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 As of now, I'd predict it to look like this: 1. Leury Garcia CF 2. Yoan Moncada 2B 3. Jose Abreu 1B 4. Casey Gillaspie DH 5. Matt Davidson 3B 6. Nick Delmonico LF 7. Ryan Cordell RF 8. Kevan Smith C 9. Tim Anderson SS Rotation: 1. Carlos Rodon LHP 2. James Shields RHP 3. Lucas Giolito RHP 4. Reynaldo Lopez RHP 5. Veteran Free Agent Bullpen: Nate Jones RHP Zach Putnam RHP Free Agent Free Agent Aaron Bummer LHP 2 more spots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Aug 19, 2017 -> 02:47 PM) As of now, I'd predict it to look like this: 1. Leury Garcia CF 2. Yoan Moncada 2B 3. Jose Abreu 1B 4. Casey Gillaspie DH 5. Matt Davidson 3B 6. Nick Delmonico LF 7. Ryan Cordell RF 8. Kevan Smith C 9. Tim Anderson SS Rotation: 1. Carlos Rodon LHP 2. James Shields RHP 3. Lucas Giolito RHP 4. Reynaldo Lopez RHP 5. Veteran Free Agent Bullpen: Nate Jones RHP Zach Putnam RHP Free Agent Free Agent Aaron Bummer LHP 2 more spots I think you can probably pencil Danish, Goldberg and Minaya into the pen. I suppose they could start in AAA, but each will definitely get their share of time in the pen next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Aug 19, 2017 -> 01:47 PM) As of now, I'd predict it to look like this: 1. Leury Garcia CF 2. Yoan Moncada 2B 3. Jose Abreu 1B 4. Casey Gillaspie DH 5. Matt Davidson 3B 6. Nick Delmonico LF 7. Ryan Cordell RF 8. Kevan Smith C 9. Tim Anderson SS I could live with that lineup... ya know...if for some reason MiGo doesn't go anywhere...or get any substantial offers in the offseason...I'd have no problem bringing him back on another 1-2 year deal similar to this years. Edited August 19, 2017 by Wanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) I don't see what Gillaspie has done to warrant a spot in our opening day lineup. Edited August 19, 2017 by Chicago White Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 QUOTE (Wanne @ Aug 19, 2017 -> 02:03 PM) I guess I'm in the camp that Tilson will never sniff the field with the big team. Just not counting on...or planning anything from him. He is the tin man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxforlife05 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) Don't forget Tito Polo he could see some time next year as well if he can handle AAA. The bullpen should be complete trash again. The rotation should be improving and getting younger though. My pick for a surprise impact performer next year is either Polo or Cordell. And Kopech on the pitching side (but that's not really going out on a limb). Edited August 19, 2017 by soxforlife05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Aug 19, 2017 -> 03:55 PM) Don't forget Tito Polo he could see some time next year as well if he can handle AAA. The bullpen should be complete trash again. The rotation should be improving and getting younger though. My pick for a surprise impact performer next year is either Polo or Cordell. And Kopech on the pitching side (but that's not really going out on a limb). It's worth thinking about what the bullpen is going to look like next year - that does seem to be the one place where the Sox could bring in a lot of FA help. Most of the guys they have now are not MLB-caliber pitchers. Probably more potential variance there than in the lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 My prediction is Delmonico splits LF/DH with Granderson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 19, 2017 -> 03:37 PM) My prediction is Delmonico splits LF/DH with Granderson Why do you think Granderson fathom? I'm not seeing any purpose for bringing him in honestly..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I just don't see Hahn bringing in a left handed hitter to platoon with another left handed hitter no matter how infatuated KW is with the hometown (and fathom's) boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Aug 19, 2017 -> 02:47 PM) As of now, I'd predict it to look like this: 1. Leury Garcia CF 2. Yoan Moncada 2B 3. Jose Abreu 1B 4. Casey Gillaspie DH 5. Matt Davidson 3B 6. Nick Delmonico LF 7. Ryan Cordell RF 8. Kevan Smith C 9. Tim Anderson SS This is almost exactly what I would propose (seems like we both think Avi will be traded). I'd just make Delmonico the DH, have Gillaspie start in AAA and then put Willy or Rymer in the LF/RF spot (with Cordell being versatile enough to move). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Aug 19, 2017 -> 10:27 PM) I just don't see Hahn bringing in a left handed hitter to platoon with another left handed hitter no matter how infatuated KW is with the hometown (and fathom's) boy. Can't hurt to get more veteran leadership to go with Abreu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 19, 2017 -> 05:35 PM) Can't hurt to get more veteran leadership to go with Abreu. But those are ABs being taken from Delmonico, Cordell, Liriano, the Garcias, etc. Might as well see what we have in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 1B-Jose 2B-Moncada SS-Anderson 3B-Davidson LF-L.Garcia CF-Engel RF-A.Garcia C-Navarez DH-Delmonico SP: Rodon, Gonzales, Shields, Lopez, Giolito BULLPEN: Moe, Larry, Curly, Shemp, Curly Joe (In other words stiffs, re-tread's and has been's) Total wins: Between 66 and 70 if, IF they can stay relatively healthy which they didn't come close to doing this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 (edited) What about our rotation? If Rodon, Lopez and Kopech are ready, playing devil's advocate, why can't we build a real pitching staff around those guys and contend? The basis of this thread is we're supposed to hit next year. I will never understand why the rebuild requires us to win 65 games two years in a row minimum when a lot of these guys are "ready." Sign two veteran pitchers for 10 mill a year apiece like the Royals always do, get a few bullpen guys and uh, win?? Is it that hard to sniff .500 in this crap division? I know, it is. If this post angers you, please ignore it. Not meant to argue. I "get it." We're in a rebuild. We're supposed to lose. I'm just playing along with the first post that says we should hit next year. Well, 3 key pieces of the future are leading our rotation ... but they have to suck first before getting good? Modern baseball really fatigues me. If I'm running a team I never do not consider the possibility of winning. Edited August 20, 2017 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 DH - Gillaspie# C - Smith 1B - Abreu 2B - Moncada# SS - Anderson 3B - Davidson LF - Delmonico* CF - Engel RF - Garcia# C - Narvaez* UT - Sanchez# UT - Peter* OF - Garcia or Cordell or Tilson SP - Rodon* SP - Lopez SP - Giolito SP - FA (Chatwood or Santiago* or Tillman) SP - Shields CL - Jones SU - FA signing SU - Goldberg MR - Bummer* MR - Rule V Pick up LO - Clark* LR - Danish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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