ChiSoxJon Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 CF Leury 2B Moncada RF Avi 1B Abreu LF Delmonico DH Davidson SS Anderson C Smith 3B Sanchez P Rodon Rotation: Shields, Lopez, Giolito, VET FA Bench: C Narvaez, 1B/3B/SS/LF/RF Cordell, INF Saladino, OF Willy Garcia Next Guys Up: 2B/3B/LF Peter, Utility Hanson, P Fulmer, OF Liriano, P Danish 'Pen: Jones, Petricka, Putnam, Bummer, Minaya, Purke, Clarke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted August 24, 2017 Author Share Posted August 24, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 11:27 AM) CF Leury 2B Moncada RF Avi 1B Abreu LF Delmonico DH Davidson SS Anderson C Smith 3B Sanchez P Rodon Rotation: Shields, Lopez, Giolito, VET FA Bench: C Narvaez, 1B/3B/SS/LF/RF Cordell, INF Saladino, OF Willy Garcia Next Guys Up: 2B/3B/LF Peter, Utility Hanson, P Fulmer, OF Liriano, P Danish 'Pen: Jones, Petricka, Putnam, Bummer, Minaya, Purke, Clarke This is probably as realistic as it gets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 QUOTE (Scoots @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 10:31 AM) This is probably as realistic as it gets I think Avi and Saladino won't be there, but other than that I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 CF - L. Garcia 2B - Moncada 1B - Abreu RF - A. Garcia DH - Delmonico 3B - Davidson LF - Cordell C - Iannetta SS - Anderson BE - Narvaez, Sanchez, Engel, Hanson/ W. Garcia SP - Rodon, Shields, Giolito, Lopez, Free Agent to flip when Kopech comes up RP - Jones, McGee, Putnam, Petricka, Minaya, Infante, Bummer I would try signing Jake McGee to a 3 year contract since the Sox dont have a shutdown lefty in the pen and see if they can get Iannetta for one season. He's currently 12th in framing, been solid defensively, has a .343 wOBA, and could bring a veteran presence for the young guys to work with. Ideally the FA SP they get would be a lefty, but I'd just look for someone you could flip at the deadline once Kopech is ready. The bench allows for a lot of versatility in the lineup with Narvaez and Sanchez hitting lefty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 QUOTE (Dunt @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 10:35 AM) CF - L. Garcia 2B - Moncada 1B - Abreu RF - A. Garcia DH - Delmonico 3B - Davidson LF - Cordell C - Iannetta SS - Anderson BE - Narvaez, Sanchez, Engel, Hanson/ W. Garcia SP - Rodon, Shields, Giolito, Lopez, Free Agent to flip when Kopech comes up RP - Jones, McGee, Putnam, Petricka, Minaya, Infante, Bummer I would try signing Jake McGee to a 3 year contract since the Sox dont have a shutdown lefty in the pen and see if they can get Iannetta for one season. He's currently 12th in framing, been solid defensively, has a .343 wOBA, and could bring a veteran presence for the young guys to work with. Ideally the FA SP they get would be a lefty, but I'd just look for someone you could flip at the deadline once Kopech is ready. The bench allows for a lot of versatility in the lineup with Narvaez and Sanchez hitting lefty. Putnam is already going to miss most (if not all) of next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 10:09 AM) Putnam is already going to miss most (if not all) of next season. And Jones is no sure thing either. Not with his injury history and coming off nerve surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 11:29 AM) And Jones is no sure thing either. Not with his injury history and coming off nerve surgery. Along with Petricka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 20, 2017 -> 09:39 PM) There are very few of us who post negative stuff LMFAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 What do you think of Moncada leading off? After watching him run the bases, I'm beginning to think of him as potentially the most dynamic lead off hitter, since Ricky Henderson. As I posted the other day, he has a good eye and sees a lot of pitches. I'd rather not saddle him with the extra burden of having to hit in the #2 hole. Just let him concentrate on getting on and then turn him loose. Versus RHP 2B - Moncada RF - A. Garcia 1B - Abreu DH - Delmonico 3B - Davidson LF - Cordell CF - L. Garcia C - Narvaez/Smith SS - Anderson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 10:27 AM) CF Leury 2B Moncada RF Avi 1B Abreu LF Delmonico DH Davidson SS Anderson C Smith 3B Sanchez P Rodon Rotation: Shields, Lopez, Giolito, VET FA Bench: C Narvaez, 1B/3B/SS/LF/RF Cordell, INF Saladino, OF Willy Garcia Next Guys Up: 2B/3B/LF Peter, Utility Hanson, P Fulmer, OF Liriano, P Danish 'Pen: Jones, Petricka, Putnam, Bummer, Minaya, Purke, Clarke Some of these guys like Willy, Saladino, Hanson, Smith won't survive a 40 man pair down. I'd be pretty surprised if one of the four isn't DFA. Otherwise, that lineup looks good just replace Davidson with The bessssssssss in July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 QUOTE (Lillian @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 01:03 PM) What do you think of Moncada leading off? After watching him run the bases, I'm beginning to think of him as potentially the most dynamic lead off hitter, since Ricky Henderson. As I posted the other day, he has a good eye and sees a lot of pitches. I'd rather not saddle him with the extra burden of having to hit in the #2 hole. Just let him concentrate on getting on and then turn him loose. Versus RHP 2B - Moncada RF - A. Garcia 1B - Abreu DH - Delmonico 3B - Davidson LF - Cordell CF - L. Garcia C - Narvaez/Smith SS - Anderson I wouldn't mind him hitting leadoff not because of "lead-off skills" or anything like that, but more because I want him getting as many PA's as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 01:09 PM) Some of these guys like Willy, Saladino, Hanson, Smith won't survive a 40 man pair down. I'd be pretty surprised if one of the four isn't DFA. Otherwise, that lineup looks good just replace Davidson with The bessssssssss in July. There really isn't going to be a 40 man roster crunch. All of those guys sans Hanson should be safe (assuming Willy has an option left). The Sox are going to have around ten 40 man spots to play with between FA, Rule 5 additions (both internal and external) and any trade acquisitions. And Avi and Abreu are really the only guys on the roster that are tradeable that would bring back assets that would need to be protected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 02:21 PM) There really isn't going to be a 40 man roster crunch. All of those guys sans Hanson should be safe (assuming Willy has an option left). The Sox are going to have around ten 40 man spots to play with between FA, Rule 5 additions (both internal and external) and any trade acquisitions. And Avi and Abreu are really the only guys on the roster that are tradeable that would bring back assets that would need to be protected. Larry on SSS did a good break down and there will be a crunch. https://www.southsidesox.com/2017/8/18/1615...coming-whitesox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 QUOTE (WBWSF @ Aug 20, 2017 -> 06:01 PM) Gonzalez pitched a good game for the win today. This will probably be his last start in a White Sox uniform. I thought we would get at least 2 more starts from him before the August 31 deadline. Now that Lester is on the Cubs DL , I figure Hahn will trade Gonzalez to his life long favorite team the Cubs. Older fans remember when Arnold Johnson owned the Kansas City As he traded numerous of his best players to the Yankees. It went on for years. It helped the Yankees maintain their dynasty in the 1950s and 1960s. I can't help but wonder if we're going to see the same type of situation with the Cubs and Hahn. He recently traded Quintana which should help them the next few years getting into the playoffs. I wouldn't be surprised to see Gonzalez go the Cubs either. He'll probably take on that Heyward contract too, which you know will inhibit the Cubs from making other moves in the future. Take Heyward for Gonzalez and suddenly the Cubs have the depth in the rotation and have room in the budget this offseason to sign another guy. It doesn't matter if they screw it up because they know they have a guy in Hahn to take on any bad contract for them while giving them a quality player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 01:31 PM) Larry on SSS did a good break down and there will be a crunch. https://www.southsidesox.com/2017/8/18/1615...coming-whitesox Yah, I've read it. I still don't think there will be a crunch. The Sox 40 man roster will be at 35 after the season and removal of impending FAs. Then the Sox have their pick of whomever they want to cut from the last list of bullets in Larry's article - my guess is Alfredo Gonzalez, Jacob May, Alen Hanson, Greg Infante, Petricka are all removed from the 40 man. That gets you down to 29. Cordell is already on the 40 man and included in my numbers. Add Liriano, Gillaspie, Peter, Fry, Guerrero, and Jimenez and you still have 5 spots left on the 40 to play with. Some dudes are going to get cut from the 40 man, but the Sox aren't going to be cutting legitimate assets to make room on the 40, and that is what I consider to be a true 40 man crunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 01:31 PM) Larry on SSS did a good break down and there will be a crunch. https://www.southsidesox.com/2017/8/18/1615...coming-whitesox It is a stretch to call this a "crunch". There aren't a whole of players who are really going to harm us if they aren't the 40 man roster. I get some players have to be added, but there is plenty of room to carve off chaff. A good chunk of that bullpen is going to be erased, for good reason. Do you see Danny Farquar holding down a roster spot? Anyone really worried about a team claiming Tyler Danish? Greg Infante? I'd put money on Putnam being a non-tender with his injury and arb standing. There are also a few position players would will be carved off of the roster as well. I am going to bet that one of Hanson or Peterson isn't on the 40 man come winter. Alfredo Gonzalez is Spanish for unemployed come December. The OF is probably also one OF heavier than it needs to be, especially if Avi comes back next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 01:58 PM) It is a stretch to call this a "crunch". There aren't a whole of players who are really going to harm us if they aren't the 40 man roster. I get some players have to be added, but there is plenty of room to carve off chaff. A good chunk of that bullpen is going to be erased, for good reason. Do you see Danny Farquar holding down a roster spot? Anyone really worried about a team claiming Tyler Danish? Greg Infante? I'd put money on Putnam being a non-tender with his injury and arb standing. There are also a few position players would will be carved off of the roster as well. I am going to bet that one of Hanson or Peterson isn't on the 40 man come winter. Alfredo Gonzalez is Spanish for unemployed come December. The OF is probably also one OF heavier than it needs to be, especially if Avi comes back next year. I laughed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 I really like the idea of signing Chris Iannetta as a mentor and someone who can frame for these young pitchers. DH - Gillaspie# C - Iannetta - FA 1B - Abreu 2B - Moncada# SS - Anderson 3B - Davidson LF - Delmonico* CF - Garcia# RF - Engel SP - Rodon* SP - Lopez SP - Giolito SP - Chatwood / Santiago* / Tillman - FA SP - Shields C - Narvaez* UT - Sanchez# UT - Peter* OF - Garcia / Cordell / Tilson CL - Jones SU - FA SU - Bummer* MR - Clark* MR - Rule V LO - Fry* LR - Danish Trade Avisail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 QUOTE (beautox @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 03:23 PM) I really like the idea of signing Chris Iannetta as a mentor and someone who can frame for these young pitchers. DH - Gillaspie# C - Iannetta - FA 1B - Abreu 2B - Moncada# SS - Anderson 3B - Davidson LF - Delmonico* CF - Garcia# RF - Engel SP - Rodon* SP - Lopez SP - Giolito SP - Chatwood / Santiago* / Tillman - FA SP - Shields C - Narvaez* UT - Sanchez# UT - Peter* OF - Garcia / Cordell / Tilson CL - Jones SU - FA SU - Bummer* MR - Clark* MR - Rule V LO - Fry* LR - Danish Trade Avisail. Two major issues with the above. Engel doesn't have the arm for RF and I'm not sure what Gillaspie has done to deserve a starting spot on the major league roster. I'd start Cordell & Willy over both of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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