NCsoxfan Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Ryan McMahon for the Rockies is a pretty interesting prospect, and hitting the heck out of the ball in the minors (more hits than anyone IIRC). Might be make an interesting off season trade target for the Sox given that he's blocked at 3B with the Rockies? They obviously might not be inclined to trade him, but could be an interesting target to play 3B for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 He's not a major league 3B, but I wouldn't hate getting my hands on him. I suggested a Montas - McMahon swap a couple offseasons ago. Obviously that idea has passed, but perhaps do the same type of deal. Rockies will always be looking for pitching, and we have a good deal of minor league pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 02:49 PM) He's not a major league 3B, but I wouldn't hate getting my hands on him. I suggested a Montas - McMahon swap a couple offseasons ago. Obviously that idea has passed, but perhaps do the same type of deal. Rockies will always be looking for pitching, and we have a good deal of minor league pitching. Why is he not a major league 3B? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Could he just slide to 1B for the Rockies after this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 02:49 PM) He's not a major league 3B, but I wouldn't hate getting my hands on him. I suggested a Montas - McMahon swap a couple offseasons ago. Obviously that idea has passed, but perhaps do the same type of deal. Rockies will always be looking for pitching, and we have a good deal of minor league pitching. I have really little interest in giving up any of the White Sox's young pitchers in a "prospect for prospect" kind of swap right now, at least not until we know better where our needs are. We could give up a pitcher to fill a position and then have one of our current guys step up big time next year. If you don't think he's a major league 3b and you think he's a corner OF or a 1b, well we've got plenty of guys at those positions already who "might" step up and be something if they get playing time - no reason to give up a pitcher for that. However...the one asset we should be looking to move this offseason is Avisail Garcia. Whether or not we get a fair offer for him I don't know, but that's a guy who could fit in Colorado given that Gonzalez's contract is up this offseason and they have had some of the worst production out of RF in the national league this year. They do have one OF prospect, some guy named Tapia who is an international signing/23 year old, but that's the only guy they have to step in for Gonzalez after this season as of now. So there's at least a potential match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 03:00 PM) Why is he not a major league 3B? He isn't good at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 03:26 PM) He isn't good at it. Based on...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 03:44 PM) Based on...? Scouting reports. The fact that he has played more 1B and 2B than 3B this season. He is at BEST a MLB average 3B, and that is if he improves a ton. He is most likely a 1B/DH/RF types that can fill in at 2B and 3B if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 03:50 PM) Scouting reports. The fact that he has played more 1B and 2B than 3B this season. He is at BEST a MLB average 3B, and that is if he improves a ton. He is most likely a 1B/DH/RF types that can fill in at 2B and 3B if needed. Getting MLB average defense with a bat like that could equate to an all-star caliber 3B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I'd love this but I really don't know what we have to give for him. If Colorado ends up wanting Avi, then sure, but otherwise, I don't see us surrendering prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 02:25 PM) I have really little interest in giving up any of the White Sox's young pitchers in a "prospect for prospect" kind of swap right now, at least not until we know better where our needs are. We could give up a pitcher to fill a position and then have one of our current guys step up big time next year. If you don't think he's a major league 3b and you think he's a corner OF or a 1b, well we've got plenty of guys at those positions already who "might" step up and be something if they get playing time - no reason to give up a pitcher for that. However...the one asset we should be looking to move this offseason is Avisail Garcia. Whether or not we get a fair offer for him I don't know, but that's a guy who could fit in Colorado given that Gonzalez's contract is up this offseason and they have had some of the worst production out of RF in the national league this year. They do have one OF prospect, some guy named Tapia who is an international signing/23 year old, but that's the only guy they have to step in for Gonzalez after this season as of now. So there's at least a potential match. They have Dahl coming back from DL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 02:26 PM) He isn't good at it. If they didn't have Arenado, he would have been given a shot at third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I have a much better idea. Sign free agent Addison Reed. He's only 29 years old and he would help the bullpen tremendously. I realize it kills JR to spend money on decent players but still Reed would be a welcome addition to the White Sox bullpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 QUOTE (WBWSF @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 08:57 PM) I have a much better idea. Sign free agent Addison Reed. He's only 29 years old and he would help the bullpen tremendously. I realize it kills JR to spend money on decent players but still Reed would be a welcome addition to the White Sox bullpen. With all due respect, you're hijacking a thread with a fairly dumb idea and logic. Highly doubtful they spend big money on a reliever given they're rebuilding and thus don't need an older reliever. More likely they go the Swarzak type reclamation project. Also, JR spent significantly on D-Rob and Melky the other year, so the money argument is largely wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 09:10 PM) With all due respect, you're hijacking a thread with a fairly dumb idea and logic. Highly doubtful they spend big money on a reliever given they're rebuilding and thus don't need an older reliever. More likely they go the Swarzak type reclamation project. Also, JR spent significantly on D-Rob and Melky the other year, so the money argument is largely wrong. If it is a cheap and tradeable deal, I would be OK with it. My guess is that will not apply to Reed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 (edited) Not a bad idea. McMahon is ranked #63 on mlb pipeline. Cease is ranked #65, I'd make that swap but I doubt the Rockies would, probably would want Giolito in return. McMahon has had a good season so I'd guess his value is a bit higher than that #63 rank. Edited August 22, 2017 by BlackSox13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 10:39 AM) Not a bad idea. McMahon is ranked #63 on mlb pipeline. Cease is ranked #65, I'd make that swap but I doubt the Rockies would. McMahon has had a good season so I'd guess his value is a bit higher than that #63 rank. Exactly. Like what would he have to trade for him exactly? I bet he's there 1B next year or in a COF spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 10:41 AM) Exactly. Like what would he have to trade for him exactly? I bet he's there 1B next year or in a COF spot. From a Rockies standpoint, I'd ask for Giolito in a McMahon trade. Both close in age, rank and development. That's probably a much closer proposal than Cease for McMahon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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