southsider2k5 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Scott MerkinVerified account @scottmerkin 1m1 minute ago Delmonico scratched with sprained right wrist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 For cryin' out loud already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 (edited) I am going to go to the game in a week and won't see nobody I wanted to see. Lopez, Moncada, and not possibly Nicky? Edited August 26, 2017 by BigHurt3515 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Aug 25, 2017 -> 05:19 PM) I am going to go to the game in a week and see nobody I wanted to see. Lopez, Moncada, and not possibly Nicky? They've been winning too any games. Put the hot players on the DL to stem the winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScootsMcGoots Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 QUOTE (ptatc @ Aug 25, 2017 -> 05:33 PM) They've been winning too any games. Put the hot players on the DL to stem the winning. Right.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 QUOTE (ptatc @ Aug 25, 2017 -> 03:33 PM) They've been winning too any games. Put the hot players on the DL to stem the winning. I know you are being facetious but it sure does seem like that sometimes. If you have talent you're getting traded or put on the Dl.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 QUOTE (ptatc @ Aug 25, 2017 -> 05:33 PM) They've been winning too any games. Put the hot players on the DL to stem the winning. Have you been doing NASCAR laps in your tinfoil helmet again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 DL. Rob Brantly now a White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 26, 2017 -> 07:17 PM) DL. Rob Brantly now a White Sox. I saw that. Three catchers? Can one play OF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 (edited) It's either because they were winning too much or that lame ass nickname (or lack thereof) on his players weekend uniform. Edited August 26, 2017 by ron883 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 26, 2017 -> 01:55 PM) I saw that. Three catchers? Can one play OF I'm sure Smith/Narvaez will get DH at bats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 26, 2017 -> 11:17 AM) DL. Rob Brantly now a White Sox. Will be traded to the Yankees since they are getting 2 catchers suspended and their AAA catcher is injured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickofypres Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Didn't we have Brantly before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Another one bites the dust. You can't make this stuff up folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 QUOTE (ypres @ Aug 26, 2017 -> 03:33 PM) Didn't we have Brantly before? Brief stint in 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Aug 26, 2017 -> 04:16 PM) Another one bites the dust. You can't make this stuff up folks. You say this s*** all the time, and it's just flat out false. The Sox are about league average in terms of DL days. The 10 day DL has provided teams much more flexibility to use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Aug 26, 2017 -> 07:06 PM) You say this s*** all the time, and it's just flat out false. The Sox are about league average in terms of DL days. The 10 day DL has provided teams much more flexibility to use it. I spent 2015 and 2016 noting that the White Sox were one of the healthiest teams in the big leagues, to the point that it was almost record-breaking, and saying that no one was paying attention to it, so when they got a year with "normal" amounts of injuries people were going to be screaming about how we were snakebit by injuries that year since we weren't used to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 27, 2017 -> 11:10 AM) I spent 2015 and 2016 noting that the White Sox were one of the healthiest teams in the big leagues, to the point that it was almost record-breaking, and saying that no one was paying attention to it, so when they got a year with "normal" amounts of injuries people were going to be screaming about how we were snakebit by injuries that year since we weren't used to it. Proof? Edited August 27, 2017 by ron883 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 QUOTE (ron883 @ Aug 27, 2017 -> 11:45 AM) Proof? I use this site that keeps track of both WAR lost and total DL days. 2015 we were at the bottom of the league. It's hard to find all of them because they started paywalling their site about a year ago, but here's "DL games lost 2010-2016" and we're 3rd fewest games lost to the DL. Houston has been the healthiest in that period, but likely affected by the fact that they were rebuilding. Detroit has also been exceptionally healthy. The White Sox have been exceptionally healthy the last 5 years compared to the rest of the league. That was an issue that should have gone into our planning - we're pretty good at preventing TJS for pitchers, but other than that, eventually we were going to be less healthy than we were in those seasons. Injuries starting to pile up this year wasn't surprising to me, nor would it be surprising to see this level of injury the next few years as this is pretty close to average. Detroit, interestingly enough, needed to think about that too - if a team wins 85 games and is "unusually healthy", then when they have a normal number of injuries they'd be winning fewer games the next year out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 27, 2017 -> 11:56 AM) I use this site that keeps track of both WAR lost and total DL days. 2015 we were at the bottom of the league. It's hard to find all of them because they started paywalling their site about a year ago, but here's "DL games lost 2010-2016" and we're 3rd fewest games lost to the DL. Houston has been the healthiest in that period, but likely affected by the fact that they were rebuilding. Detroit has also been exceptionally healthy. The White Sox have been exceptionally healthy the last 5 years compared to the rest of the league. That was an issue that should have gone into our planning - we're pretty good at preventing TJS for pitchers, but other than that, eventually we were going to be less healthy than we were in those seasons. Injuries starting to pile up this year wasn't surprising to me, nor would it be surprising to see this level of injury the next few years as this is pretty close to average. Detroit, interestingly enough, needed to think about that too - if a team wins 85 games and is "unusually healthy", then when they have a normal number of injuries they'd be winning fewer games the next year out. I also think the Sox have been unusually conservative by their own standards. Rodon and others have missed more time or been placed on the DL that in a year where they wanted to be competitive would have been handled differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 QUOTE (ptatc @ Aug 27, 2017 -> 06:51 PM) I also think the Sox have been unusually conservative by their own standards. Rodon and others have missed more time or been placed on the DL that in a year where they wanted to be competitive would have been handled differently. Yeah, with the 10 day DL, a lot of guys who might have missed 5 days are going on to the DL with the new structure. With the 15 day DL, guys would just eat the 5 days so they could have them back for the other 10. Reynaldo Lopez is a perfect example of a guy who might have missed a start, but wouldn't have gone to the DL last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 27, 2017 -> 11:56 AM) I use this site that keeps track of both WAR lost and total DL days. 2015 we were at the bottom of the league. It's hard to find all of them because they started paywalling their site about a year ago, but here's "DL games lost 2010-2016" and we're 3rd fewest games lost to the DL. Houston has been the healthiest in that period, but likely affected by the fact that they were rebuilding. Detroit has also been exceptionally healthy. The White Sox have been exceptionally healthy the last 5 years compared to the rest of the league. That was an issue that should have gone into our planning - we're pretty good at preventing TJS for pitchers, but other than that, eventually we were going to be less healthy than we were in those seasons. Injuries starting to pile up this year wasn't surprising to me, nor would it be surprising to see this level of injury the next few years as this is pretty close to average. Detroit, interestingly enough, needed to think about that too - if a team wins 85 games and is "unusually healthy", then when they have a normal number of injuries they'd be winning fewer games the next year out. The White Sox have also had by far the fewest games lost to the DL from 2002-2011, and meanwhile teams like the Dodgers, Rangers and Mets topped that list. Houston was 2nd to the Sox in least amount of time lost. It's not just luck, it's one of the things the franchise does really well. The norm for the White Sox is the team being "unusually healthy". 2015 and 2016 were still a bit lucky, but being well ahead of the average is something we should come to expect. It's not a coincidence that the same teams are routinely at the top and bottom for injuries. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-white-s...ng-projections/ Edited August 28, 2017 by OmarComing25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I do think the White Sox do a really good job keeping pitchers healthy. They must have some sort of routine with the shoulder and elbow. They also don't seem to have many hamstring injuries, but a lot of injuries are just bad luck. Nothing a training staff can do when a guy gets HBP and breaks something, or slips and blows out a knee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Rob Brantly has been just demolishing the IL all year. I'm mildly excited to see if he finally turned a corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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