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QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Aug 25, 2017 -> 05:19 PM)
I am going to go to the game in a week and see nobody I wanted to see. Lopez, Moncada, and not possibly Nicky?

They've been winning too any games. Put the hot players on the DL to stem the winning.

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QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Aug 26, 2017 -> 04:16 PM)
Another one bites the dust. You can't make this stuff up folks. :angry:

 

You say this s*** all the time, and it's just flat out false. The Sox are about league average in terms of DL days. The 10 day DL has provided teams much more flexibility to use it.

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QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Aug 26, 2017 -> 07:06 PM)
You say this s*** all the time, and it's just flat out false. The Sox are about league average in terms of DL days. The 10 day DL has provided teams much more flexibility to use it.

I spent 2015 and 2016 noting that the White Sox were one of the healthiest teams in the big leagues, to the point that it was almost record-breaking, and saying that no one was paying attention to it, so when they got a year with "normal" amounts of injuries people were going to be screaming about how we were snakebit by injuries that year since we weren't used to it.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 27, 2017 -> 11:10 AM)
I spent 2015 and 2016 noting that the White Sox were one of the healthiest teams in the big leagues, to the point that it was almost record-breaking, and saying that no one was paying attention to it, so when they got a year with "normal" amounts of injuries people were going to be screaming about how we were snakebit by injuries that year since we weren't used to it.

Proof?

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QUOTE (ron883 @ Aug 27, 2017 -> 11:45 AM)
Proof?

I use this site that keeps track of both WAR lost and total DL days. 2015 we were at the bottom of the league. It's hard to find all of them because they started paywalling their site about a year ago, but here's "DL games lost 2010-2016" and we're 3rd fewest games lost to the DL. Houston has been the healthiest in that period, but likely affected by the fact that they were rebuilding. Detroit has also been exceptionally healthy.

 

The White Sox have been exceptionally healthy the last 5 years compared to the rest of the league. That was an issue that should have gone into our planning - we're pretty good at preventing TJS for pitchers, but other than that, eventually we were going to be less healthy than we were in those seasons. Injuries starting to pile up this year wasn't surprising to me, nor would it be surprising to see this level of injury the next few years as this is pretty close to average. Detroit, interestingly enough, needed to think about that too - if a team wins 85 games and is "unusually healthy", then when they have a normal number of injuries they'd be winning fewer games the next year out.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 27, 2017 -> 11:56 AM)
I use this site that keeps track of both WAR lost and total DL days. 2015 we were at the bottom of the league. It's hard to find all of them because they started paywalling their site about a year ago, but here's "DL games lost 2010-2016" and we're 3rd fewest games lost to the DL. Houston has been the healthiest in that period, but likely affected by the fact that they were rebuilding. Detroit has also been exceptionally healthy.

 

The White Sox have been exceptionally healthy the last 5 years compared to the rest of the league. That was an issue that should have gone into our planning - we're pretty good at preventing TJS for pitchers, but other than that, eventually we were going to be less healthy than we were in those seasons. Injuries starting to pile up this year wasn't surprising to me, nor would it be surprising to see this level of injury the next few years as this is pretty close to average. Detroit, interestingly enough, needed to think about that too - if a team wins 85 games and is "unusually healthy", then when they have a normal number of injuries they'd be winning fewer games the next year out.

I also think the Sox have been unusually conservative by their own standards. Rodon and others have missed more time or been placed on the DL that in a year where they wanted to be competitive would have been handled differently.

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QUOTE (ptatc @ Aug 27, 2017 -> 06:51 PM)
I also think the Sox have been unusually conservative by their own standards. Rodon and others have missed more time or been placed on the DL that in a year where they wanted to be competitive would have been handled differently.

 

Yeah, with the 10 day DL, a lot of guys who might have missed 5 days are going on to the DL with the new structure. With the 15 day DL, guys would just eat the 5 days so they could have them back for the other 10. Reynaldo Lopez is a perfect example of a guy who might have missed a start, but wouldn't have gone to the DL last year.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 27, 2017 -> 11:56 AM)
I use this site that keeps track of both WAR lost and total DL days. 2015 we were at the bottom of the league. It's hard to find all of them because they started paywalling their site about a year ago, but here's "DL games lost 2010-2016" and we're 3rd fewest games lost to the DL. Houston has been the healthiest in that period, but likely affected by the fact that they were rebuilding. Detroit has also been exceptionally healthy.

 

The White Sox have been exceptionally healthy the last 5 years compared to the rest of the league. That was an issue that should have gone into our planning - we're pretty good at preventing TJS for pitchers, but other than that, eventually we were going to be less healthy than we were in those seasons. Injuries starting to pile up this year wasn't surprising to me, nor would it be surprising to see this level of injury the next few years as this is pretty close to average. Detroit, interestingly enough, needed to think about that too - if a team wins 85 games and is "unusually healthy", then when they have a normal number of injuries they'd be winning fewer games the next year out.

The White Sox have also had by far the fewest games lost to the DL from 2002-2011, and meanwhile teams like the Dodgers, Rangers and Mets topped that list. Houston was 2nd to the Sox in least amount of time lost. It's not just luck, it's one of the things the franchise does really well. The norm for the White Sox is the team being "unusually healthy". 2015 and 2016 were still a bit lucky, but being well ahead of the average is something we should come to expect. It's not a coincidence that the same teams are routinely at the top and bottom for injuries.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-white-s...ng-projections/

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I do think the White Sox do a really good job keeping pitchers healthy. They must have some sort of routine with the shoulder and elbow. They also don't seem to have many hamstring injuries, but a lot of injuries are just bad luck. Nothing a training staff can do when a guy gets HBP and breaks something, or slips and blows out a knee.

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