Ongoing storm disaster thread

[StrangeSox]

A guy I know who lives in Rockport sent me this list from nyt when I asked for charity suggestions for anyone looking

 

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/28/us/do...ties-scams.html

 

Also this link

https://www.nvoad.org/hurricane-harvey/hurr...ey-how-to-help/

[BaconOnAStick]

Science is about recognizing when you have absolutely zero understanding and thus not basing your opinions on that complete lack of understanding.

wut

[southsider2k5]

I'm just asking questions, which from my understanding is exactly what science is all about.

 

Uh no. You are missing 99.9% of the scientific process.

[Reddy]

wut

You wanna answer the question? I clearly wasn't speaking literally. You can't make an argument that "asking questions" is how science works, when you've come to a decision based on exactly zero scientific expertise anyway.

 

Did you believe scientists that there would be an eclipse? Was there an eclipse? Why do you feel climate change is different? Please use specifics. Thanks.

Edited August 30, 2017 by Reddy

[BaconOnAStick]

You wanna answer the question? I clearly wasn't speaking literally. You can't make an argument that "asking questions" is how science works, when you've come to a decision based on exactly zero scientific expertise anyway.

 

Did you believe scientists that there would be an eclipse? Was there an eclipse? Why do you feel climate change is different? Please use specifics. Thanks.

I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to convey here. You aren't speaking (??? I cant hear you) literally? Well then what the hell are you doing?

 

I think you should take a break. Just safely slide away and let this babble fade into the abyss where nobody can find it. I'm keeping the quote though, that's an all timer.

[Dick Allen]

Well how do we know it's a once in 500 year storm? From what I understand the Comanche did not keep detailed weather records. I think some of these ideas need to be reevaluated, and the "once in x amount of years" weather event label perhaps doesn't fit.

Why is it you accept science for so many things, yet not this? It is too bad Al Gore was really the front man on this subject, and people made it a political thing and not common sense.

[RockRaines]

Well how do we know it's a once in 500 year storm? From what I understand the Comanche did not keep detailed weather records. I think some of these ideas need to be reevaluated, and the "once in x amount of years" weather event label perhaps doesn't fit.

Well, the average second grader learns Dendroclimatology as a way to show past climate changes. And thats just the start of biological indicators. I would suggest a quick google search on how they have determined, scientifically, what weather and climate patterns were back to thousands of years ago.

 

Of course that probably DOES require a belief in Dinosaurs and that there were civilizations that existed beyond the Comanche hundreds of years ago.

[Brian]

Well, the average second grader learns Dendroclimatology as a way to show past climate changes. And thats just the start of biological indicators. I would suggest a quick google search on how they have determined, scientifically, what weather and climate patterns were back to thousands of years ago.

 

Of course that probably DOES require a belief in Dinosaurs and that there were civilizations that existed beyond the Comanche hundreds of years ago.

 

You're in on the China conspiracy, Rock!!!!

 

I love people who thinks, "Hmmm, oodles and oodles of scientific studies and data to prove climate change is real. None to prove it is a farce. I'll choose the farce!"

Edited August 30, 2017 by Brian

[RockRaines]

You're in on the China conspiracy, Rock!!!!

 

I love people who thinks, "Hmmm, oodles and oodles of scientific studies and data to prove climate change is real. None to prove it is a farce. I'll choose the farce!"

FYI, there was no science 500 years ago.

[StrangeSox]

Houston’s ‘Wild West’ growth

How the city's development may have contributed to devastating flooding

 

Houston calls itself “the city with no limits” to convey the promise of boundless opportunity. But it also is the largest U.S. city to have no zoning laws, part of a hands-off approach to urban planning that may have contributed to catastrophic flooding from Hurricane Harvey and left thousands of residents in harm’s way.

 

Growth that is virtually unchecked, including in flood-prone areas, has diminished the land’s already-limited natural ability to absorb water, according to environmentalists and experts in land use and natural disasters. And the city’s drainage system — a network of reservoirs, bayous and, as a last resort, roads that hold and drain water — was not designed to handle the massive storms that are increasingly common.

 

 

 

Interesting article that goes into Houston's lack of zoning and how the booming construction there doesn't really take into account how to deal with large storms and potential flooding. The article doesn't touch on this aspect, but that same sort of unplanned rapid expansion contributes to the inability to properly and safely evacuate the area as well.

[Brian]

FYI, there was no science 500 years ago.

 

My bad. Wonder how they made compasses and maps and stuff back then.

[Iwritecode]

Apparently Obama didn't respond fast enough to Katrina

 

 

[greg775]

Worth a read. This guy is in Houston, lives there and points out there have been a lot of dumb statements regarding the situation. They got a lot of rain, folks.

 

http://thebiglead.com/2017/08/29/i-live-in...t-it-right-now/

[Kyyle23]

Worth a read. This guy is in Houston, lives there and points out there have been a lot of dumb statements regarding the situation.

 

http://thebiglead.com/2017/08/29/i-live-in...t-it-right-now/

 

 

They got a lot of rain, folks.

 

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[Quin]

That article sucked.

[greg775]

The commentors on that Big lead story can be rude. That one person said they almost deserve what they got by staying. Give me a break. Nobody deserves that.

Not everybody can flee. s***, you'd probably be fired by your job if you left in this day and age without the mandatory evacuation order. Like the writer said most people stay. Sure you can end up in a shelter but decisions are made and stuff happens.

Edited August 30, 2017 by greg775

[greg775]

That article sucked.

That article was great.

[RockRaines]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Upvote

[Quin]

That article was great.

 

MAYBE IT WAS CLIMATE BUT YOU'RE DUMB

 

is what I got out of it

[Reddy]

I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to convey here. You aren't speaking (??? I cant hear you) literally? Well then what the hell are you doing?

 

I think you should take a break. Just safely slide away and let this babble fade into the abyss where nobody can find it. I'm keeping the quote though, that's an all timer.

What are you even talking about?

 

Deflect deflect deflect when you can't answer a simple question that would create a big gaping hole in your argument. Fair enough. But we can all see you. Transparent AF.

[StrangeSox]

[Quin]

What are you even talking about?

 

Deflect deflect deflect when you can't answer a simple question that would create a big gaping hole in your argument. Fair enough. But we can all see you. Transparent AF.

 

How dare you address The Duke like that.

[Balta1701]

Anyone see any info about donating things like clothes etc?

FWIW, US Postal Service has stopped for any zip code that has a 778 to start with, so literally 100 miles from Houston there is no mail service right now. Literally don't even try to ship goods here unless you're able to access your own nationwide shipping network. Basically, don't ship items unless you're actually part of the Walton family or you are in one of the nearby communities already.

 

If you want to give something tangible that isn't money, give blood. Houston will be collecting zero donations in the near future which means that every pint of blood that would otherwise have been used at the biggest medical complex in the world will have to be supplied from outside the city.

 

I could probably suggest a gofundme page or two from people who I know first or secondhand if someone were interested, but no pressure.

[T R U]

So yeah, its pretty wet here currently

 

Some of us were able to go back to work today, still no delivery services running. Hopefully they are back tomorrow.

[RockRaines]

FWIW, US Postal Service has stopped for any zip code that has a 778 to start with, so literally 100 miles from Houston there is no mail service right now. Literally don't even try to ship goods here unless you're able to access your own nationwide shipping network. Basically, don't ship items unless you're actually part of the Walton family or you are in one of the nearby communities already.

 

If you want to give something tangible that isn't money, give blood. Houston will be collecting zero donations in the near future which means that every pint of blood that would otherwise have been used at the biggest medical complex in the world will have to be supplied from outside the city.

 

I could probably suggest a gofundme page or two from people who I know first or secondhand if someone were interested, but no pressure.

Thanks dude