ChiSox59 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Sep 5, 2017 -> 10:58 AM) I've been saying he'll probably end up at 1B for them next season anyway. I'd prefer to save 1B for a FA bopper when were ready. Or maybe Burger ends up there if we sign a 3B. We also have a few internal options at 1B, and gotta give Abreu some credit - he has improved over there this year. I wouldn't trade Avi for a 1B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Didn't read the whole thread ... but to answer the question shortly? Any doubters left? Yes ... me. Also think there's no reason to trade him. We aren't going to the playoffs next year so might as well send him out there for another year to see if he can replicate this season again. Plus the value for Avi isn't very high. JD Martinez didn't fetch a whole ton and he is a damn star compared to Avi. IMO you won't get much back for him, so let him do this another year and then evaluate where he plays in 2019 (DH, RF, LF, traded, released) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Sep 5, 2017 -> 08:48 AM) Suggesting this again: Ryan McMahon for Avi, who says no? The Rockies say no. They have plenty of outfielders as is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Sep 5, 2017 -> 03:19 PM) The Rockies say no. They have plenty of outfielders as is. I think the 3rd OF someone mentioned as possible last time was Valaika correct? Once Gonzalez is out of the way, they've got Valaika, Desmond, Blackmon, and Parra. If you don't have confidence in Desmond, and Valaika isn't lighting the world on fire although he's been better than Gonzalez...I still think there's a decent match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoedairy Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 5, 2017 -> 04:10 PM) I think the 3rd OF someone mentioned as possible last time was Valaika correct? Once Gonzalez is out of the way, they've got Valaika, Desmond, Blackmon, and Parra. If you don't have confidence in Desmond, and Valaika isn't lighting the world on fire although he's been better than Gonzalez...I still think there's a decent match. They have David Dahl as well. Injuries basically robbed him of this year but he was pretty good in 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) FWIW I checked out Avi's xStats and they were better than I thought they were going to be. He's shown some real positive change compared to last year. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14rW...K-cXP4cs8qc97I/ His xOBA is .349, and while it's quite a bit lower than his current .366 wOBA it's still well above average. His "expected" batting line based on exit velocity and launch angle came out to .291/.342/.478, which would be a wRC+ of about 118 or so, which is still top 10 for all RF on the year. Unsurprisingly his xBABIP is quite a bit lower at .336, but that is partially offset because xStats believes he's been unlucky on his power this season, seeing as how his SLG barely drops at all despite the decent sized drop in AVG/OBP. His xOBA in 2016 was .321 which was quite a bit higher than his actual 2016 wOBA of .302 so you could say xStats saw some considerable improvement coming this season anyway. Also, xStats tends to slightly underrate guys who get a lot of infield hits and Avi's infield hit% this year (12.2%) is double the league average rate, and for his career he's solidly above league average (~9%), so you could even argue that his expected batting line should be higher. Edited September 5, 2017 by OmarComing25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted September 6, 2017 Author Share Posted September 6, 2017 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 5, 2017 -> 03:14 PM) FWIW I checked out Avi's xStats and they were better than I thought they were going to be. He's shown some real positive change compared to last year. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14rW...K-cXP4cs8qc97I/ His xOBA is .349, and while it's quite a bit lower than his current .366 wOBA it's still well above average. His "expected" batting line based on exit velocity and launch angle came out to .291/.342/.478, which would be a wRC+ of about 118 or so, which is still top 10 for all RF on the year. Unsurprisingly his xBABIP is quite a bit lower at .336, but that is partially offset because xStats believes he's been unlucky on his power this season, seeing as how his SLG barely drops at all despite the decent sized drop in AVG/OBP. His xOBA in 2016 was .321 which was quite a bit higher than his actual 2016 wOBA of .302 so you could say xStats saw some considerable improvement coming this season anyway. Also, xStats tends to slightly underrate guys who get a lot of infield hits and Avi's infield hit% this year (12.2%) is double the league average rate, and for his career he's solidly above league average (~9%), so you could even argue that his expected batting line should be higher. I have been saying Avi's had a ton of infield hits and had to be among the leaders. Does xStats have a top 10 in infield hits and if so where is Avi on it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 5, 2017 -> 04:10 PM) I think the 3rd OF someone mentioned as possible last time was Valaika correct? Once Gonzalez is out of the way, they've got Valaika, Desmond, Blackmon, and Parra. If you don't have confidence in Desmond, and Valaika isn't lighting the world on fire although he's been better than Gonzalez...I still think there's a decent match. I think Coors field would expose Avi. Colorodo is a great place for hitters that can get the ball off the ground which Avi still struggles with. Also, Avi does a fine job in a small park like GRF but I think Coors would eat him alive. How does Hahn get the Rockies to look past those two things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Sep 6, 2017 -> 07:39 AM) I have been saying Avi's had a ton of infield hits and had to be among the leaders. Does xStats have a top 10 in infield hits and if so where is Avi on it ? I found the Infield Hit stat on Fangraphs. http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=...0&sort=11,d Here are the leaders by percentage. Avi is 3rd behind Altuve and Story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted September 6, 2017 Author Share Posted September 6, 2017 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 6, 2017 -> 07:37 AM) I found the Infield Hit stat on Fangraphs. http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=...0&sort=11,d Here are the leaders by percentage. Avi is 3rd behind Altuve and Story. Thank you so much ! I can see Avi is 3rd in IFF% .Also third behind Altuve and Bogearts in number of infield hits. Also see Story and Altuve with bunt hits while Avi has none. If you eliminate bunt hits looks like Avi would be first in IFF% or as I like to call it unintentionally weak contact but the speed to take advantage of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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