NorthSideSox72 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Our Y2Jimmy0 gives you the full picture on the upcoming Otani sweepstakes and what effect they likely have on your White Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 14, 2017 -> 09:23 AM) Our Y2Jimmy0 gives you the full picture on the upcoming Otani sweepstakes and what effect they likely have on your White Sox. Covered very thoroughly , Excellent work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 MLB Trade Rumors @mlbtraderumors 3h3 hours ago Japanese star Shohei Otani reportedly working on choosing MLB agent: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/09/shohei-otani-interviewing-mlb-agents.html …://https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017...b-agents.html … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Really interesting read on the kid, especially his view on money. http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-shohei...-htmlstory.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 29, 2017 -> 03:33 PM) Really interesting read on the kid, especially his view on money. http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-shohei...-htmlstory.html That is interesting. Sounds like he might be a guy who doesn't particularly care about the easiest path or what others before him have done. Could he be sold on a chance to join a young, budding powerhouse? Would we let him be a starting pitcher? Or a closer? It seems to at least be worth a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 If Sox got this guy to go with this year's No. 2 draft pick and next year's No. 1 pick, that's a LOT of projected superstars. However, the fact Rodon and Fulmer do not look like locks to be superstars shows the tenuousness of the draft. But I digress. The Sox should try to get this guy IMO. I'd rather use him as an everday player, though. It goes back to the days of Babe Ruth. You are more valuable as an everday player than pitcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 29, 2017 -> 07:18 PM) If Sox got this guy to go with this year's No. 2 draft pick and next year's No. 1 pick, that's a LOT of projected superstars. However, the fact Rodon and Fulmer do not look like locks to be superstars shows the tenuousness of the draft. But I digress. The Sox should try to get this guy IMO. I'd rather use him as an everday player, though. It goes back to the days of Babe Ruth. You are more valuable as an everday player than pitcher. He seems to really want the chance to do both, and I think the team that lands him will be one that presents him with that opportunity. The White Sox are in prime position to try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Otani isn't coming to the Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 QUOTE (Quin @ Sep 29, 2017 -> 05:49 PM) Otani isn't coming to the Sox. Elaborate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 QUOTE (Quin @ Sep 29, 2017 -> 07:49 PM) Otani isn't coming to the Sox. Neither was Abreu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Since money isn't a big deal, it's going to be interesting to see how creative teams get when they try to lure him to sign with them. Plenty of teams will offer to play him inbetween starts so what else can teams offer him to separate themselves from the rest? Teams are going to have to get very creative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (oldsox @ Sep 29, 2017 -> 08:54 PM) Neither was Abreu. Not every team was able to bid on Abreu either, some big players ( Dodgers, Yanks, Red Sux) were out, much like Robert. Plus the Sox had a very strong connection with Cuban players. Otani is a very different situation from Abreu. Edited September 30, 2017 by BlackSox13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 QUOTE (Quin @ Sep 29, 2017 -> 07:49 PM) Otani isn't coming to the Sox. ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 29, 2017 -> 06:05 PM) Elaborate. QUOTE (Quin - elaborated by hi8is @ Sep 29, 2017 -> 09:51 PM) Otani is not, under any circumstance, coming to the Sox. There ya go. Elaboration complete. Edited September 30, 2017 by hi8is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 No circumstance possible? Did you consider the circumstance where Iguchi calls him and says "White Sox. Fun team."? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Sep 29, 2017 -> 10:52 PM) No circumstance possible? Did you consider the circumstance where Iguchi calls him and says "White Sox. Fun team."? I should just select the "ignore" option for this entire thread... oh wait, there isn't one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 29, 2017 -> 06:34 PM) That is interesting. Sounds like he might be a guy who doesn't particularly care about the easiest path or what others before him have done. Could he be sold on a chance to join a young, budding powerhouse? Would we let him be a starting pitcher? Or a closer? It seems to at least be worth a shot. I agree. Reading that really changed my perspective. Maybe they can find something to sell him on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 QUOTE (oldsox @ Sep 29, 2017 -> 08:54 PM) Neither was Abreu. Maybe it is the oldness speaking, but the White Sox were always a leader for Abreu. Most of the top spending teams didn't need him, and the Sox were the most obvious team, both in the media and in speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 30, 2017 -> 07:55 AM) Maybe it is the oldness speaking, but the White Sox were always a leader for Abreu. Most of the top spending teams didn't need him, and the Sox were the most obvious team, both in the media and in speculation. Yeah, the Rockies were really the only other choice. As for Otani, I agree it isn't likely, but if you buy into that article at all, I'm not quite sure how one could dismiss the Sox entirely. The guy is passing up what is believed to be hundreds of millions of dollars so he can come to the US two years early and play in the mlb. Why the hell would he care about the difference between $300k to sign and $5 million? He already has money and doesn't spend it as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 QUOTE (oldsox @ Sep 29, 2017 -> 09:54 PM) Neither was Abreu. ' Lmao, I was actually aboard the Abreu to the Sox train because it made feasible sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Quin @ Sep 30, 2017 -> 08:51 AM) ' Lmao, I was actually aboard the Abreu to the Sox train because it made feasible sense. Quin, Please explain to me how Otani leaving Japan now, instead of in two years, makes "feasible sense"? Edited September 30, 2017 by iamshack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 30, 2017 -> 11:53 AM) Quin, Please explain to me how Otani leaving Japan now, instead of in two years, makes "feasible sense"? Isn't Japan infamous for running its pitchers into the ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 QUOTE (Quin @ Sep 30, 2017 -> 08:56 AM) Isn't Japan infamous for running its pitchers into the ground? Read the article. It is his choice to pitch - he could be an everyday player if he wanted to be. He wants to do things that have never been done before, describing a desire to be a pioneer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Sep 29, 2017 -> 09:16 PM) Not every team was able to bid on Abreu either, some big players ( Dodgers, Yanks, Red Sux) were out, much like Robert. Plus the Sox had a very strong connection with Cuban players. Otani is a very different situation from Abreu. This explanation is inaccurate. Abreu wasn't a restricted amateur signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Sep 30, 2017 -> 01:58 PM) This explanation is inaccurate. Abreu wasn't a restricted amateur signing. You're correct on Abreu not being a restricted amateur signing but I must kindly disagree with with the inaccurate part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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