Squirmin' for Yermin Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Sep 29, 2017 -> 08:40 AM) Sounded like Hahn will start to discuss extensions in the middle of '18, with obviously only interest to extend Abreu and Garcia Abreu is the leader of this team and can still hopefully produce 2-4 more high level years, with him being a UFA in '20 there is 0 need to extend him now Garcia, just 26, still has to repeat success to show '17 wasn't a fluke, but I'd be thrilled with him as the long term RFer if he can prove that Next year's OD lineup of SS Anderson, 2B Moncada, 1B Abreu, RF Garcia, LF Delmonico, DH Davidson, 3B Sanchez, C Smith, and CF Leury looks like they can surprise a lot of people, especially in a weaker division...Not to mention the probable call-ups of LF Jimenez and C Collins next year along with CF Robert, 3B/1B Burger in '19 Next year's success in the W column really relies on pitching, which is off to a bad start with Rodon likely missing a month or so, but the rotation starting off '18 should feature Giolito, Fulmer, Lopez, and Shields (along with a cheap vet FA) with Rodon coming back in May and Kopech up in the summer 19's rotation should be Kopech, Rodon, Giolito, Lopez, and Hansen thus setting up '19 to be a major year and start of dominance for the ChiTown Sox Am I the only one that thinks Avi moves over to LF once Eloy (RF) gets called up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 QUOTE (cjgalloway @ Sep 29, 2017 -> 09:51 AM) Am I the only one that thinks Avi moves over to LF once Eloy (RF) gets called up? Nope, I see it the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 27, 2017 -> 03:45 PM) Dom @WhiteSoxDom 17h17 hours ago Only 1B with more fWAR than Jose Abreu in 2017: Joey Votto Paul Goldschmidt Freddie Freeman Gotta imagine he's the favorite for a silver slugger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Sep 29, 2017 -> 08:40 AM) Sounded like Hahn will start to discuss extensions in the middle of '18, with obviously only interest to extend Abreu and Garcia Abreu is the leader of this team and can still hopefully produce 2-4 more high level years, with him being a UFA in '20 there is 0 need to extend him now Garcia, just 26, still has to repeat success to show '17 wasn't a fluke, but I'd be thrilled with him as the long term RFer if he can prove that Next year's OD lineup of SS Anderson, 2B Moncada, 1B Abreu, RF Garcia, LF Delmonico, DH Davidson, 3B Sanchez, C Smith, and CF Leury looks like they can surprise a lot of people, especially in a weaker division...Not to mention the probable call-ups of LF Jimenez and C Collins next year along with CF Robert, 3B/1B Burger in '19 Next year's success in the W column really relies on pitching, which is off to a bad start with Rodon likely missing a month or so, but the rotation starting off '18 should feature Giolito, Fulmer, Lopez, and Shields (along with a cheap vet FA) with Rodon coming back in May and Kopech up in the summer 19's rotation should be Kopech, Rodon, Giolito, Lopez, and Hansen thus setting up '19 to be a major year and start of dominance for the ChiTown Sox I hope things play out that way. If they do, signing Machado in the '18-'19 offseason makes a ton of sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 QUOTE (cjgalloway @ Sep 28, 2017 -> 03:17 PM) There is absolutely no need in extending Abreu before his contract expires. Unless he gives the White Sox a favorable deal like 4/60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 29, 2017 Author Share Posted September 29, 2017 Chicago White SoxVerified account @whitesox 14h14 hours ago José Abreu & Albert Pujols exchanged bats tonight to honor José matching Pujols’ mark of 100 RBI & 25 HR in each of their first 4 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 QUOTE (cjgalloway @ Sep 29, 2017 -> 09:51 AM) Am I the only one that thinks Avi moves over to LF once Eloy (RF) gets called up? Considering Eloy has a league average arm, no, I do not think that will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Considering upcoming drafts and the current system, do people think there is really that much risk in holding onto assets like Abreu/Garcia even if it means no return (aside from performance)? I'm really not that worried and a lot happens in 2 years. See what we were like in 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 29, 2017 -> 01:31 PM) Considering upcoming drafts and the current system, do people think there is really that much risk in holding onto assets like Abreu/Garcia even if it means no return (aside from performance)? I'm really not that worried and a lot happens in 2 years. See what we were like in 2015. I wouldn't trade Abreu unless some kind of package comes along where we almost can't say no. Something like a top 20 prospect plus others. Avi, on the other hand, as much as I love what he's done this year, I would consider moving. Not just for anything, but I wonder if he could be packaged with something like Fulmer to get Giancarlo Stanton + $30-40 million. Edited September 29, 2017 by iamshack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Yeah i'd do it too. We just have so little longterm assets and frankly in 4-5 years when it would really hurt, I don't see that contract still being that insane unless tv revenues truly crash. But MLB is the one sport that I think handles it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 QUOTE (Tony @ Sep 29, 2017 -> 04:02 PM) In regards to Avi and Stanton, that's surely something worth a discussion. Absolutely. Still not sure what a Stanton trade would look like but we have to look into it. Adding Stanton to an Abreu, Eloy, Moncada offensive core is f***in salivating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 29, 2017 -> 04:48 PM) Yeah i'd do it too. We just have so little longterm assets and frankly in 4-5 years when it would really hurt, I don't see that contract still being that insane unless tv revenues truly crash. But MLB is the one sport that I think handles it. It's just a chance I'm willing to take. He can really make this team something special in the next 5-6 or whatever seasons. If that's the case then even if the contract becomes an albatross down the road you just deal with it. It's a risk, of course, but one I'm willing to take if the price is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 29, 2017 -> 03:38 PM) I wouldn't trade Abreu unless some kind of package comes along where we almost can't say no. Something like a top 20 prospect plus others. Avi, on the other hand, as much as I love what he's done this year, I would consider moving. Not just for anything, but I wonder if he could be packaged with something like Fulmer to get Giancarlo Stanton + $30-40 million. Avi and Fulmer for Stanton and cash sounds great, but I feel like Miami would get a slightly better offer somewhere else. Maybe if we included someone like Adolfo or Stephens (somebody who's a decent prospect and blocked but not top tier), it could get done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 If he could be the White Sox version of Big Papi, that would be most excellent. But I am pretty sure he is gone if the price is right. They could always bring him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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