BlackSox13 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 This is a decent compromise between Boston and Martinez. A front loaded contract makes sense for a 30 year old DH/RF. Now the opt-out is debatable but in this case, given Martinez' age and position, I don't think the opt-out is so bad. From Boston's POV, if Martinez does opt-out, say after the '19 season, that's a bunch of money coming off the books that they can in turn use to make a push for Arenado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 QUOTE (wrathofhahn @ Feb 19, 2018 -> 09:23 PM) You do realize it's not that simple right? If he plays well and opts out the Redsox maybe happy they paid extra (probably about 10 million based on what EE got last year) but got their LF/DH for two years. The problem is baseball is not that simple and tidy. He could play poorly or be injured for the first year he then walks away like a boss with most of his money paid upfront. Or he could have a down year or be injured for two years then opt out in year three. Or he could be a disappointment entirely and opt in for the entire duration. The point is regardless of what happens JDM is covered and will come out ahead. The redsox absorbed a terrible amount of risk with no upside whatsoever. In fact in the best case scenario they pay a DH 50 million for two years. Which is beyond crazy. You make it sound like he would have signed a 2year contract. No way. If he sucked, they were going to have to pay him for 5 years anyway. This way, they can have him for 2 years, and he is only opting out if he played well enough to justify the 2 years. For some reason, many teams that have players with opt outs tend to re sign them to longer more expensive deals when they opt out. In 2 years Martinez will be an older, most likely less valuable version of himself. If he opts out, it means the Red Sox made a great deal for 2 years. If he doesn’t, they would be in the same spot without an opt out. If the Red Sox are disciplined enough to realize 32 year old DHs tend not to be worth what JD would need if he opted out, because some team won’t, the opt out will work in their favor.. it is a great thing for the player. I am not saying it isn’t. They have a shot at even more money while guaranteed their entire contract if they suck or get hurt. But they would have had the later anyway. I would thin, unless he really hates it there, it’s more likely the opt out will not be used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Feb 19, 2018 -> 06:31 PM) Braves are DFA'ing Mauricio Cabrera. Guy used to hit 101 mph. Sox need another flamethrower, right, right?!? 103 actually. Touched 104 in a game as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Source: Dbacks have acquired Steven Souza from Rays in three-team deal. Brandon Drury is headed to the Yankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN 1m The Yankees got 3B Brandon Drury in a 3-team trade. TB sends Souza to the Diamondbacks. NYY sending one prospect to TB, one to Arizona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 (edited) Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1 #Yankees giving up Nick Solak to #rays and another prospect to #Diamondbacks, plus Az gets Souza from #Rays, #Yankees get Drury from Az. Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1 now Sorry Taylor Widener is RHP prospect going from #Yankees to #Diamondbacks Edited February 20, 2018 by Sleepy Harold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Where's Souza playing? Platooning with Dyson and they're finally dumping Tomas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Is it just me or is Solak a ridiculously light return for Souza Jr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 QUOTE (daggins @ Feb 20, 2018 -> 05:49 PM) Is it just me or is Solak a ridiculously light return for Souza Jr? They also got Banda back from AZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Brent Honeywell @brent_honeywell 4m4 minutes ago More What is this I love when players react to trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 (edited) Florida firesale continues. It must feel like such a relief to get traded by a team that plays in an ugly empty stadium. Edited February 20, 2018 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Steve Gilbert @SteveGilbertMLB now The #Dbacks will also send the Rays a pair of PTBNL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 So the Rays gave up Souza and got back Solak, Banda, and 2 PTBNL? That seems like a great deal for them. That could be a look at what Avi is worth too if he puts up another good first half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 20, 2018 -> 05:57 PM) Florida firesale continues. It must feel like such a relief to get traded by a team that plays in an ugly empty stadium. They should just disallow all professional sports teams from the state of Florida. Except for the Lightning I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Feb 20, 2018 -> 06:10 PM) So the Rays gave up Souza and got back Solak, Banda, and 2 PTBNL? That seems like a great deal for them. That could be a look at what Avi is worth too if he puts up another good first half. Unfortunately Avi will only have 1 1/2 years of control at that point while Souza has three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 20, 2018 -> 06:40 PM) Unfortunately Avi will only have 1 1/2 years of control at that point while Souza has three. Yeah, but he is also younger so signing him to an extension makes even more sense for whatever team acquires him. I'm hoping that, and some team having a bigger need than currently, will make it so they are closer in value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 If the Yankees don't want Andujar, I wouldn't mind him coming to the Sox. This move makes some sense for the DBacks and Rays, but why did the Yankees do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 20, 2018 -> 05:57 PM) Florida firesale continues. It must feel like such a relief to get traded by a team that plays in an ugly empty stadium. While our stadium is certainly not ugly, I don't get why I've recently seen Sox fans, both here and on Twitter, take jabs at other teams' attendance as if we're some sort of powerhouse in that arena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 (edited) QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Feb 20, 2018 -> 08:11 PM) While our stadium is certainly not ugly, I don't get why I've recently seen Sox fans, both here and on Twitter, take jabs at other teams' attendance as if we're some sort of powerhouse in that arena I was going for the ugly AND empty "jab" (wasn't really intended to be that way). Like you said, at least ours isn't ugly. Edited February 21, 2018 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Feb 20, 2018 -> 07:59 PM) If the Yankees don't want Andujar, I wouldn't mind him coming to the Sox. This move makes some sense for the DBacks and Rays, but why did the Yankees do this? So Drury can play 2B. Their current 2B is Ronald Torreyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 (edited) QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Feb 20, 2018 -> 07:59 PM) If the Yankees don't want Andujar, I wouldn't mind him coming to the Sox. This move makes some sense for the DBacks and Rays, but why did the Yankees do this? So they have an option at 2B. Once Torres comes up, Drury falls back into more of Zobrist role filling in the infield and occasional OF, assuming Andujar is doing well himself. The move doesn't really impact Andujar much (at least not to open the year). Edited February 21, 2018 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Who said that the Marlins are tanking??? Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 17m17 minutes ago More Marlins agreed to deal with Cameron Maybin @timbhealey 1st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Feb 20, 2018 -> 06:55 PM) I love when players react to trades. In Brent Honeywell, we're going to get a chance to see if a franchise can make a player hate his own team enough to ultimately affect his performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Buster OlneyVerified account @Buster_ESPN More The Astros’ Forrest Whitley, one of baseball’s best pitching prospects, has been suspended 50 games without pay for a violation of the minor-league drug program. Not exactly MLB news, but noteworthy nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 QUOTE (raBBit @ Feb 21, 2018 -> 10:01 AM) Either adderall (stims in general) or weed. Since he is challenging it, I'm thinking adderall (I posted this in the other thread about it too). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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