Dick Allen Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 02:55 AM) Damage control from a new management team who has nothing to lose by "bending the truth"? Could be, but if he does turn into a star, they look pretty bad. He is so young, I don't know how anyone could expect him to put up much numbers-wise. Supposedly his body changed, as he got a lot heavier.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 08:05 AM) We have no money. Eh, he's got $300k. I mean full court sales pitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 07:05 AM) We have no money. So if they lose him, he reverts to International free agent rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 QUOTE (Quin @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 07:17 AM) Eh, he's got $300k. I mean full court sales pitch Do they? I know they can sign him for that, but how much do they have left after trading away slot money three different signings and at least two signings of their own? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 07:25 AM) So if they lose him, he reverts to International free agent rules? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) Pretty sure Maitan is going to take the highest bid (or near highest) which won’t be us. I’m pretty confident that we have at least $300k remaining if we want to throw a Hail Mary type offer though. Edited November 20, 2017 by Chicago White Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 07:26 AM) Do they? I know they can sign him for that, but how much do they have left after trading away slot money three different signings and at least two signings of their own? I tried to do the math. We’ve only signed 2 players, traded 3 slots. Assuming the Mariners trade was about the others, we still have 2 mill or so left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 08:37 AM) Pretty sure Maitan is going to take the highest bid (or near highest) which won’t be us. I’m pretty confident that we have at least $300k remaining if we want to throw a Hail Mary type offer though. If his deal is the same as the Red Sox prospects, every team will be allowed to offer him their entire pool. With the Red Sox guys, the first $300K (the amount of their original reported bonus) didn't count toward the new team's bonus pool. In Maitan's case, that would be the first $4.25 million, so Texas, for example, could offer him almost $8 million if he's granted the same status as the Red Sox prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneofthemikes Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 This may have already been discussed, but would the Braves be able to potentially re-sign him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 11:59 AM) If his deal is the same as the Red Sox prospects, every team will be allowed to offer him their entire pool. With the Red Sox guys, the first $300K (the amount of their original reported bonus) didn't count toward the new team's bonus pool. In Maitan's case, that would be the first $4.25 million, so Texas, for example, could offer him almost $8 million if he's granted the same status as the Red Sox prospects. This is really going to be interesting with teams looking to push their pool money to Otani. I wonder who and what amounts are out there for Matain? Most teams have already spent most of their money, either that or they are looking towards the Japanese and even Cuban phenoms that are showing up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 QUOTE (oneofthemikes @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 01:05 PM) This may have already been discussed, but would the Braves be able to potentially re-sign him? If their punishment goes like Boston's, they'll be out of the international market for at least a year once their prospects are released. That means no Maitan, no Otani, no anyone for at least the rest of this signing period. If the offense is severe enough, maybe even the next as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Mark BowmanVerified account @mlbbowman 6m6 minutes ago MLB will likely announce the findings of its Braves investigation within the next two days. Penalties could include fines, international market restrictions and the loss of international prospects (Maitan remains a strong possibility). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 01:14 PM) Mark BowmanVerified account @mlbbowman 6m6 minutes ago MLB will likely announce the findings of its Braves investigation within the next two days. Penalties could include fines, international market restrictions and the loss of international prospects (Maitan remains a strong possibility). Maitan is the biggest name, but they also signed a catcher, Abraham Gutierrez, for ~$3.5 million. Is he someone who, if released, would be worth bringing in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 12:21 PM) Maitan is the biggest name, but they also signed a catcher, Abraham Gutierrez, for ~$3.5 million. Is he someone who, if released, would be worth bringing in? The Braves have something like half a dozen guys out of that class who have made it to the US. There is a ton of talent to poach there. Hopefully Paddy has some good feelers out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Major League Baseball has informed several #Braves prospects that they will meet with them on Tuesday afternoon, according to multiple sources. https://twitter.com/BaseballAmerica/status/...793350142427136 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 from https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/11/brav...violations.html NOVEMBER 21: An announcement could come today, MLB.com’s Mark Bowman adds on Twitter. Notably, he says to expect a “severe” punishment that strips the Braves of “many” recent international signees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 Wow, mlb going way harder than I thought they would. Good for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 11:44 AM) Wow, mlb going way harder than I thought they would. Good for them. Hearing that all the prospects the Braves lose will be tossed back into the international free agent pool, subject to existing restrictions (likely we are out of the running to sign any of them) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Maybe we are trading Guerrero and Polo for slot money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 10:48 AM) Hearing that all the prospects the Braves lose will be tossed back into the international free agent pool, subject to existing restrictions (likely we are out of the running to sign any of them) Maybe, but who knows. Their 2016 class was huge: https://www.baseballamerica.com/internation...Ksi7HlBLXhEP.97 It's hard to know what team has what amount left. Certainly the runner up to Otani may feel like they have a nice consolation, but it could play out with us getting a guy we didn't expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 10:48 AM) Hearing that all the prospects the Braves lose will be tossed back into the international free agent pool, subject to existing restrictions (likely we are out of the running to sign any of them) How much money do teams have left at this point? Depending on the number of players being tossed back into the pool, some guys may be forced to take $300k from the teams in the penalty box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 11:07 AM) How much money do teams have left at this point? Depending on the number of players being tossed back into the pool, some guys may be forced to take $300k from the teams in the penalty box. That's also true. It would be awesome if we could sign a few of them at $300k each (depending on if there is room). Edited November 21, 2017 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 10s Braves ruling expected today. Kevin Maitan will be freed ($4.2M signing, infielder). Others may be too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 11:17 AM) Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 10s Braves ruling expected today. Kevin Maitan will be freed ($4.2M signing, infielder). Others may be too. So we are over slot already...can we not go even more over slot and blow our minds on these guys or are we in the penalty box already because of the timing of the Robert signing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 11:22 AM) So we are over slot already...can we not go even more over slot and blow our minds on these guys or are we in the penalty box already because of the timing of the Robert signing? If it based on the current period (which I assume it is), we are in the penalty box. Edited November 21, 2017 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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