BlackSox13 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/11/gian...s-saturday.html Sounds as though DD is pushing hard for Stanton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 11, 2017 -> 02:09 PM) It's not about his not spending, it's that is not the right fit and this is an albatross of a contract. I'm not going to say it wouldn't be cool to see Giancarlo Stanton in a Sox uniform, because it would, but there is such little in the way of reward with so much more risk. It's not worth it. The Sox payroll was up around $150-170 million like 3 years ago, or did you forget about that? The Sox are young and the team isn't that good, this is not the time to spend. The highest payroll the White Sox have had was in 2011 when it was $129 million. The second highest was $121 million in 2008. They have never had a payroll of $150 million and never will as long as JR owns the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 QUOTE (WBWSF @ Nov 11, 2017 -> 06:31 PM) The highest payroll the White Sox have had was in 2011 when it was $129 million. The second highest was $121 million in 2008. They have never had a payroll of $150 million and never will as long as JR owns the team. Lol...ok bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black jack Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 QUOTE (WBWSF @ Nov 11, 2017 -> 06:31 PM) The highest payroll the White Sox have had was in 2011 when it was $129 million. The second highest was $121 million in 2008. They have never had a payroll of $150 million and never will as long as JR owns the team. I just checked it out: $129,000,000 in the year 2010 is equivalent to $144,813,231.46 in 2017. I think a $150,000,000 in 2019 or 2020 isn't out of the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 11, 2017 -> 06:39 PM) Lol...ok bro. Is he wrong, bro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 11, 2017 -> 01:09 PM) The Sox payroll was up around $150-170 million like 3 years ago, or did you forget about that? Your what hurts? Please show us facts supporting when the the team payroll was even within $20 million of that. Krikey!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 11, 2017 -> 04:39 PM) Lol...ok bro. Bro... QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Nov 11, 2017 -> 09:57 PM) Is he wrong, bro? Bro!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 This is so bro-mantic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) 1) White Sox Opening Day Payrolls. 2017=$95 million. 2016=$98 million. 2015=$115 million. 2014=$91 million. 2013=$119 million. 2012 = $96 million. 2011= $129 million. 2010= $108 million. 2009=$96 million. 2008= $121 million. 2) I keep reading that the 2018 White Sox payroll will be around $75 million. Forbes magazine has said that the White Sox franchise brings in about $250 million dollars. The 2018 White Sox will be one of the most profitable teams in MLB. More moola for JR. Edited November 12, 2017 by WBWSF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Jimmy3Putt @ Nov 11, 2017 -> 11:48 PM) I just checked it out: $129,000,000 in the year 2010 is equivalent to $144,813,231.46 in 2017. I think a $150,000,000 in 2019 or 2020 isn't out of the question. This. We’ve already come close that number when you adjust for inflation. Add in the fact that there are all sorts of new revenue streams since 2010 plus a new TV deal for the Sox coming up, $150M isn’t really an absurd target. Doesn’t mean it will definitely happen (attendance still matters), but completely ruling it out is ridiculous. Edited November 12, 2017 by Chicago White Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Nov 11, 2017 -> 11:57 PM) Is he wrong, bro? Don’t call me bro, guy. And yes, I think him stating we’ll never see $150M payroll under as a fact is absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 QUOTE (WBWSF @ Nov 12, 2017 -> 06:52 AM) 1) White Sox Opening Day Payrolls. 2017=$95 million. 2016=$98 million. 2015=$115 million. 2014=$91 million. 2013=$119 million. 2012 = $96 million. 2011= $129 million. 2010= $108 million. 2009=$96 million. 2008= $121 million. 2) I keep reading that the 2018 White Sox payroll will be around $75 million. Forbes magazine has said that the White Sox franchise brings in about $250 million dollars. The 2018 White Sox will be one of the most profitable teams in MLB. More moola for JR. You really don’t get how this works do you. Revenue profit and there are expenses other than payroll. And the Sox are unlikely to bring as much revenue in this year as they normally would because the team is rebuilding and likely won’t be very good. And guess what, when you’re rebuilding and not trying to be very good, you typically don’t waste money on unnecessary players to appease short-sighted fans like yourself. Trust the process and understand the payroll will rise back up when this team actually needs to spend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Was just perusing MLBTR and supposedly the Giants might not have enough on the farm to land Stanton but are interested in JBJ. This has three-way between Boston/SF/Miami written all over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Nov 12, 2017 -> 12:03 AM) Your what hurts? Please show us facts supporting when the the team payroll was even within $20 million of that. Krikey!! Could have sworn it was $150 at one point, but I stand corrected. Nonetheless, the Sox have shown they are willing to spend money when it's pertinent. The White Sox not spending now has no bearing on how much they will spend in the future. This team isn't good. They shouldn't spend right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 12, 2017 -> 01:07 AM) Bro... Bro!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 12, 2017 -> 01:31 PM) Could have sworn it was $150 at one point, but I stand corrected. Nonetheless, the Sox have shown they are willing to spend money when it's pertinent. The White Sox not spending now has no bearing on how much they will spend in the future. This team isn't good. They shouldn't spend right now. Yep. The same thing happened to Houston during their rebuild. Loria was under constant attack by the fans for not spending. But look what happened when they got their core solidified, they spent to fill in the gaps. Same on the North side of Chicago. Sox fans need to look years down the road. Remember when the salaries of Melky and LaRoche inhibited Hahn from going after some big named free agents just a few years ago? And their salaries weren't that expensive. Plus, if the Sox Max out their payroll now, where does the money come to try and extend core players when the time comes? Cracks me with the " spend baby spend" mentality but when those contracts inhibit moves, it's " WTF were the Sox thinking?". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 QUOTE (WBWSF @ Nov 12, 2017 -> 06:52 AM) 1) White Sox Opening Day Payrolls. 2017=$95 million. 2016=$98 million. 2015=$115 million. 2014=$91 million. 2013=$119 million. 2012 = $96 million. 2011= $129 million. 2010= $108 million. 2009=$96 million. 2008= $121 million. 2) I keep reading that the 2018 White Sox payroll will be around $75 million. Forbes magazine has said that the White Sox franchise brings in about $250 million dollars. The 2018 White Sox will be one of the most profitable teams in MLB. More moola for JR. This just hurts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Boston Herald reporting that Stanton will NOT accept a trade to the Cardinals or Red Sox, prefers the West Coast. http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox...ancarlo_stanton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 StL fans are going to handle that well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 14, 2017 -> 02:06 PM) Boston Herald reporting that Stanton will NOT accept a trade to the Cardinals or Red Sox, prefers the West Coast. http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox...ancarlo_stanton Boy that screws Miami over pretty badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 14, 2017 -> 02:18 PM) Boy that screws Miami over pretty badly. that's what they get for agreeing to the no trade clause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 So that basically puts the Giants in the drivers seat right? Padres and A's probably don't want the contract, Dodgers might not be able to afford it. Do the Angels try to make a run at him then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 (edited) https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/11/gian...rs-tuesday.html Update says he hasn't ruled out anyone. I think this guy would waive his no-trade clause 100% for any non-rebuilding (or close to finishing rebuild) team. The guy doesn't want to be in Miami anymore. Edited November 14, 2017 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 14, 2017 -> 02:10 PM) StL fans are going to handle that well. Oh ya, they'll handle if wonderfully. Next big name talk radio has been talking a lot about down here is...Jose Abreu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Nov 14, 2017 -> 02:40 PM) Oh ya, they'll handle if wonderfully. Next big name talk radio has been talking a lot about down here is...Jose Abreu. Wait, seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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