The Sexual Assault problem

[caulfield12]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion...-story,amp.html

Ivanka Trump might be the worst enabler of them all

[caulfield12]

To get this unfortunate thread back on track from the derailment, there looks to be another Senator who could on the chopping board next.

 

Former intern of Senator Blumenthal tells her sexual assault story, then sets her account to private shortly after. I'd like to see something more official but worth monitoring.

 

https://twitter.com/SSludgeworth/status/931574521089445888

 

Surprise, surprise.

Twitter User With Fake IDs (and fake pictures) Spreads Blumenthal Assault Charge

https://amp.thedailybeast.com/a-twitter-acc...tes-ran-with-it

 

And yet 35% of the American people will still believe it....even if it’s clearly fake news with zero corroboration by a legit news network. Any 13 year old could pull off a stunt like that and accuse a politician, celebrity or neighbor/classmate of sexual assault. Account suspended/shut down turns to account turned to private in order to protect herself from vicious left wing attacks.

 

In fact, a quick search shows that the account ripped off bio photos of women in Texas and London and misspelled the name of the accuser’s Connecticut hometown. The account was quickly shut down once the accusation went viral on rightwing media, with the user then emerging to claim she’d been hacked. After that, the account was suspended.

 

A reverse Google Image search of that photo revealed that it was actually a different Linda Flores—a Linda Flores Olson who served as the former Executive Director of the Houston Hispanic Forum. When reached by The Daily Beast, a spokesperson for the Houston Hispanic Forum told The Daily Beast that Olson is no longer working for the nonprofit, but said she had nothing to do with the Twitter account.

 

“She's aware of the tweet. That is a fake account,” the spokesperson told The Daily Beast.

 

Hours later, the picture on the Linda Flores account had been changed to a picture of another woman who was not, it seems, actually Linda Flores. A reverse Google Image search revealed that woman pictured was actually Sarah Brook, an HR specialist in the U.K. whose Twitter and LinkedIn accounts predated the creation of “Flores’” account by several years.

Edited November 18, 2017 by caulfield12

[Wanne]

LOL until someone with a different opinion shows up. I'm like the sole Cubs fan at Shinnicks in here. I will give you credit that even though we disagree on most things you never let it carry over elsewhere. I appreciate that.

 

I'm there with ya raBBit....I just choose not to engage in these type discussions on any of the boards I'm on because it usually ends up with "mob posse" D's whining...and finger pointing...and basically becoming unhinged. Tell ya what...it's basically the reason I re-registered back in 2010. I was and voted D all my life...but pretty much got sick of the hypocritical bulls*** that I saw from the left...so I bolted. Honestly...it's like a f******* mob posse mentality.

[Dick Allen]

I'm there with ya raBBit....I just choose not to engage in these type discussions on any of the boards I'm on because it usually ends up with "mob posse" D's whining...and finger pointing...and basically becoming unhinged. Tell ya what...it's basically the reason I re-registered back in 2010. I was and voted D all my life...but pretty much got sick of the hypocritical bulls*** that I saw from the left...so I bolted. Honestly...it's like a f******* mob posse mentality.

I find it curious you landed with the Republican Party when hypocrisy was what you were fleeing.

[RockRaines]

I hate that they are forcing us into two buckets. We aren’t like that. Nobody is

[StrangeSox]

Yeah maybe don't spread unsubstantiated rumors from right wing Twitter

[StrangeSox]

Wapo has a series of stories today on harassment

 

Restaurant industry

https://t.co/moMOlZ4jbH

 

Olympics

https://t.co/yptsew88JA

 

TED talks

https://t.co/20IAxviT7y

 

Politics

https://t.co/IF43Z8NRCh

 

[Balta1701]

Well then.

Stephen Bittel’s rocky tenure as Florida Democratic Party chairman ended in disgrace Friday after he resigned following accusations from women that he leered at them, made suggestive comments and created an unprofessional work environment.

 

...

No one has accused Bittel of inappropriately touching women. But the six women who spoke anonymously to Politico Florida said his inappropriate comments and penchant for keeping breast-shaped stress-squeeze balls in his office — which Bittel said were gags — made it uncomfortable to work with him.

 

“There was a lot of boob stuff in his office,” a former fundraiser who interacted with Bittel told Politico Florida. Several women said they tried not to leave each other alone with Bittel in his office, home or private jet.

Twitter

Longtime source/friend who knew Bittel through Miami political circles said she remembers he accidentally (she thinks) sent her an email with “pictures of dozens, if not hundreds, of clitorises … I didn’t know there was such variation. I’ve only seen one!”

 

— Marc Caputo (@MarcACaputo) November 17, 2017

[caulfield12]

I'm there with ya raBBit....I just choose not to engage in these type discussions on any of the boards I'm on because it usually ends up with "mob posse" D's whining...and finger pointing...and basically becoming unhinged. Tell ya what...it's basically the reason I re-registered back in 2010. I was and voted D all my life...but pretty much got sick of the hypocritical bulls*** that I saw from the left...so I bolted. Honestly...it's like a f******* mob posse mentality.

 

For everyone like you who bolted from the party or voted Trump in Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania....there are 2-3 who are going back in the other direction, repelled by everything they’ve witnessed in the last ten months.

 

You can’t just selectively block out the association with Steve Bannon and the alt-right.

 

The Republican Party is splitting right down the middle, just like the Democrats. But the Dems (especially women) are more motivated to stop Trumpism before they can even consider healing the rifts in the party.

 

The big difference is that on issues like health care or tax cuts (take your stand on the side of those earning $500k or more, see http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/17/news/econo...ill/index.html) which provide the greatest good for the greatest number of Americans, you’re on the wrong side. And that’s not even considering the anti-women, anti-minorities, anti-immigrant side of the GOP at the moment...rearing its ugly head in Charlottesville or over Roy Moore.

 

And that’s not even considering the stance of putting your head in the sand while we continue to damage the environment (see the most recent oil pipeline spill)...what’s the worst thing that could happen if we take proactive steps right now instead of waiting until it’s too late and the planet has been damaged beyond repair?

 

If Trump had actually done anything to benefit the middle class since coming into office, you’d at least have an argument. If the best that you can come up with is the stock market continuing to rise, there’s really going to be hell to pay when the bubble pops and even the upper middle class and rich start to turn on Trump after all the tax cut bills have withered on the vine.

Edited November 18, 2017 by caulfield12

[RockRaines]

LOL until someone with a different opinion shows up. I'm like the sole Cubs fan at Shinnicks in here. I will give you credit that even though we disagree on most things you never let it carry over elsewhere. I appreciate that.

This forum is specifically for spirited debate and we need to remember we are more alike than different. That’s why we all joined this board. At the end of the day, most if not all of the well known contributors on soxtalk are good people. A lot of us know each other and respect each other. That’s what sets this board apart.

[caulfield12]

Numerous families, NFL teams, former friends (online and off) and neighbors have been split...forced to choose one political side or the other, so it shouldn’t come as any surprise than SoxTalk also reflects that same fraying of the social fabric. I’m honestly not sure we can say with certainty that we are still more alike than different.

 

And country always comes before allegiance over a sports team. That’s just the way it goes. Surely the same debates will be happening around the Thanksging table, perhaps even more heated this year (for those not already worn out trying to “convert” the other side.)

Edited November 18, 2017 by caulfield12

[greg775]

Is Al Franken taking enough criticism for what he allegedly did? Maher was easy on him. SNL mentioned Trump being worse as well.

[caulfield12]

Is Al Franken taking enough criticism for what he allegedly did? Maher was easy on him. SNL mentioned Trump being worse as well.

 

Considering most of his ex-staffers and those who have been around him for 30-40 years have come out and defended him (even some comedians on opposite ends of the political spectrum)...it would, at a minimum, take another woman coming forward with a credible story to get him to resign.

 

The Hidden History of Trump’s First Trip to Moscow. In 1987, a young real estate developer traveled to the Soviet Union.The KGB almost certainly made the trip happen.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/201...cow-trip-215842

 

 

 

[RockRaines]

Is Al Franken taking enough criticism for what he allegedly did? Maher was easy on him. SNL mentioned Trump being worse as well.

Was SNL 16 times harder on Trump?

[StrangeSox]

Another accusation again Franken, this one from 2010.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/al-...2010/index.html

[Reddy]

Another accusation again Franken, this one from 2010.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/al-...2010/index.html

Sigh. I gotta be honest - when you've taken tens of THOUSANDS of photos with people, the odds someone doesn't take something the wrong way is nonexistent. I think I'm getting desensitized. And that's not good. For me or this movement. Because I'm finding it hard to care about this one. Probably partially my bias, but also the idea that the average person with a social media account can now come out with a story about a political opponent and completely castrate them or cause them to resign, has me feeling uneasy about this whole thing.

[iamshack]

Sigh. I gotta be honest - when you've taken tens of THOUSANDS of photos with people, the odds someone doesn't take something the wrong way is nonexistent. I think I'm getting desensitized. And that's not good. For me or this movement. Because I'm finding it hard to care about this one. Probably partially my bias, but also the idea that the average person with a social media account can now come out with a story about a political opponent and completely castrate them or cause them to resign, has me feeling uneasy about this whole thing.

Yeah, now these people just want attention.

 

I get it isn't cool for him to grab your ass, but do we really need to call f***ing CNN?

[StrangeSox]

"Don't put your hands on a woman's ass" seems pretty straight forward.

 

e: where else are they supposed to go to expose these creeps?

Edited November 20, 2017 by StrangeSox

[iamshack]

"Don't put your hands on a woman's ass" seems pretty straight forward.

 

e: where else are they supposed to go to expose these creeps?

Does it really need to be a national news story?

 

Really? We all just figured out that men, particularly those with influence, are inherently dirtbags?

 

 

 

 

[bmags]

If Al Franken grabbed my wife's ass when she wanted to take a photo with him while he was visiting as part of being a senator (or anywhere, but let's keep that in mind), I think he should be publicly shamed and face repercussions.

 

It's not acceptable. He wasn't elected so that he could force himself on whomever he wanted. He's a disgrace and should resign.

[StrangeSox]

Does it really need to be a national news story?

 

Really? We all just figured out that men, particularly those with influence, are inherently dirtbags?

 

It's a story about a well-known US Senator who just faced an allegation last week. That seems worthy of being a national story.

[bmags]

Does it really need to be a national news story?

 

Really? We all just figured out that men, particularly those with influence, are inherently dirtbags?

 

No, this is so cynical. There is an opportunity here to actually change things. Your comment is so similar to the "So ALL cops are bad!? we get it" comments. If the people that take advantage of their power, for one, are held accountable for this behavior maybe it stops.

 

But now that there are so many stories where people are putting their name on the line as accusers we hit a point where we just say "we get it, all men are bad, blah blah get over it".

 

No, let the offenders face real consequences. Nothing was truly being solved by just paying out victims silently.

[iamshack]

It's a story about a well-known US Senator who just faced an allegation last week. That seems worthy of being a national story.

Let's prepare for a never-ending parade of dips*** politicians being accused of touching women's asses now.

 

[bmags]

Let's prepare for a never-ending parade of dips*** politicians being accused of touching women's asses now.

 

Yes, let's.

[iamshack]

No, this is so cynical. There is an opportunity here to actually change things. Your comment is so similar to the "So ALL cops are bad!? we get it" comments. If the people that take advantage of their power, for one, are held accountable for this behavior maybe it stops.

 

But now that there are so many stories where people are putting their name on the line as accusers we hit a point where we just say "we get it, all men are bad, blah blah get over it".

 

No, let the offenders face real consequences. Nothing was truly being solved by just paying out victims silently.

No, you are naive.

 

This is not going to stop men, particularly old men that are no longer getting laid, from being perverts.