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Trump would highly recommend him for office.

He would make America great again.

 

Since MAGA was Trump's campaign slogan, that implies it wasn't great. How unpatriotic. And for a guy who hates to be politically correct, he sure does take a politically correct view on standing for the National Anthem.

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Rep. Joe Barton

 

Congressman told woman he would report her to Capitol Police if she exposed his secret sex life

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=...rN8ZFOD4xbU2nov

So I've gotta say, in Barton's case, I kind of agree with him. These were consensual relationships, and if one of his partners aired out his dirty laundry by, saying, sending out a risque photo to the public... then he's absolutely right to threaten sending the police for what she did which is basically revenge prn. I don't at all put this in the same category as the various Franken or Moore situations, where it was non-consenual and/or involved minors.

 

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Yeah, there's definitely a major difference there in that the relationship was 100% consensual.

 

Where the problem seems to be is that he's threatening her if she were to ever disclose the relationship at all. It sounded more like he didn't even want her talking about it to other people because it could be damaging to him.

 

Sending out his nude photo is a violation on her part for sure though, and it is important to keep things in perspective rather than lumping it all together.

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Yeah, there's definitely a major difference there in that the relationship was 100% consensual.

 

Where the problem seems to be is that he's threatening her if she were to ever disclose the relationship at all. It sounded more like he didn't even want her talking about it to other people because it could be damaging to him.

 

Sending out his nude photo is a violation on her part for sure though, and it is important to keep things in perspective rather than lumping it all together.

 

That may be true but to me it reads as straight black mail and he was a victim.

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I haven't seen any reporting or a claim from Barton that she was demanding something in return for silence. He doesn't have the right to demand that anyone he's had a relationship with be silent about it forever. If she's bitter that he ended their secret relationship, she has every right to tell people about it if she wants to.

 

He's definitely a victim with regards to the photo/video being released, though.

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I haven't seen any reporting or a claim from Barton that she was demanding something in return for silence. He doesn't have the right to demand that anyone he's had a relationship with be silent about it forever. If she's bitter that he ended their secret relationship, she has every right to tell people about it if she wants to.

 

He's definitely a victim with regards to the photo/video being released, though.

 

The fact that the photo was released to me indicates her "going public" included releasing embarrassing photos as proof.

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Michigan State hasn’t faced consequences for enabling the biggest sex abuse scandal in U.S. sports

Larry Nassar has three times as many alleged victims as Jerry Sandusky.

 

(I know it's a ThinkProgress piece, but it isn't partisan political)

 

 

Last Wednesday, former gymnastics doctor Larry Nassar stood in an orange jumpsuit in an Ingham County, Michigan court room and plead guilty to sexually abusing seven girls, at least three of whom were under the age of seven. As part of the plea agreement, he will be sentenced to 25 to 40 years in prison.

 

“You used your position of trust that you had in the most vile way, to abuse children,” Judge Rosemarie Aquilina said. “You were trained as a healer, and what you did was harm them.”

 

Nassar — a longtime team physician for USA Gymnastics who had a successful and highly-touted medical practice at Michigan State — has been accused of sexually abusing more than 140 women and girls under the guise of providing medical treatment.

 

 

Most the attention so far has been focused on Nassar’s work with USA Gymnastics, and, recently, his alleged abuse of “Fierce Five” gymnasts. And while USA Gymnastics deserves all the scrutiny and punishments that come its way, it’s not the only institution that has questions to answer.

 

Nassar also worked at Michigan State. For two decades, the public university paid him, provided him with facilities, referred student-athletes from across the athletic department to his practice, showered him with awards, and even used his work with the Olympic team as a recruiting tool. This is despite the fact that, between 1997 and 2015, at least seven girls and women raised concerns about Nassar’s actions to authority figures at the school — including trainers, police, and MSU university officials.

 

But at Michigan State, so far the only person other than Nassar to lose their job is coach Klages, who retired a day after being suspended by the university in February 2017. There is nothing controversial about this dismissal — except perhaps how long it took to happen. In addition to the victims such as Boyce who say that Klages discouraged them from reporting the abuse, members of the 2016 MSU gymnastics team say that Klages called a team meeting after Nassar was fired from the university, in which she passionately defended Nassar and asked gymnasts to sign a card for the alleged molester.

 

Still happily employed at MSU? Athletics Director Mark Hollis; Dr. William Strampel, dean of MSU’s College of Osteopathic Medicine, who told Nassar that he was “on [his] side” after the IndyStar investigation surfaced; and President Lou Anna K. Simon, who defended MSU’s inaction against Nassar to the Board of Trustees earlier this year by saying, “I have been told it is virtually impossible to stop a determined sexual predator and pedophile, that they will go to incomprehensible lengths to keep what they do in the shadows.”

 

These failures are glaringly apparent when looking at MSU’s 2014 Title IX investigation against Nassar.

 

During that investigation, all four physicians who evaluated Nassar and looked into the legitimacy of his medical procedures were either directly chosen for the investigation by Nassar, or were very close friends of Nassar. Is it any wonder they sided with Nassar and decided the victims must be simply confused?

 

Somehow, the investigation simultaneously concluded that Nassar’s treatments were medically appropriate and that Nassar should nonetheless be supervised at all times while performing these procedures in the future. However, Nassar continued to assault victims after these regulations were put into place, and there is no proof that the guidelines for supervision were publicized or followed.

 

And at the conclusion of the investigation, MSU reportedly gave Nassar’s victim a less extensive copy of the Title IX report than it provided to Nassar and the university — which is a direct Title IX violation.

 

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The Associated Press‏Verified account @AP 6m6 minutes ago BREAKING: White House official: Trump will not campaign for embattled Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore before Dec. 12 election.

 

 

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 27, 2017 -> 04:30 PM)
What's the need to bring in 2k5 here?

 

Um, he literally posted that tweet as something worth caring about.

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He posted a piece of news without an opinion and you're attributing an opinion to him that he didn't make. If you don't care about his post, don't respond to it. AP found it newsworthy.

Clearly I do care about it. I consider anyone who thinks that to be unusually important and believable enough to copy and paste onto another page as evidence of whatever to be worthy of ridicule.

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/roy-moore-challe...-235755535.html

 

Roy Moore has a write-in challenge in the AL Senate race to be decided two weeks from now...long-serving Marine with connections to General Kelly, not sure if they're trying to ensure Moore can't win or what? A write-in with so little to time to mount a campaign and no advertising budget beyond pointing to his LinkedIn page seems a bit off the wall, but what else can you expect from that state right now?

 

Candidate also currently refusing to take any position on sexual harassment/underage allegations against Moore.

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