The Sexual Assault problem

[RockRaines]

Good, later creep. At least networks and cable companies hold their employees to higher standards than we hold our president

[StrangeSox]

I guess Variety and NYT both have stories in the works about Lauer that NBC was aware of (probably contacted for comments) that are pretty damning.

[RockRaines]

Once again, I REALLY hope this continues to bleed into the corporate world. Women have been getting violated and shamed by powerful men for too long.

[pettie4sox]

This is a perfect way to end the year. I hope these women living in silence as long as they have get justice. You have to be a real SOB to sexually assault another human being.

 

Franken should step down, and Moore should be eviscerated. Big cats like them rarely change their spots, no matter how much they deny.

 

While we're at it, I hope the Trump accusers really turn up the heat.

[StrangeSox]

Franken won't step down unless something more serious comes out, Moore will win, maybe Conyers gets the boot.

[pettie4sox]

Franken won't step down unless something more serious comes out, Moore will win, maybe Conyers gets the boot.

 

Democrats should oust him then. They can't peddle they are anti this behavior but when one of their own gets caught with with their hand in the cookie jar, they say, "whooooa wait a second..."

[Balta1701]

Democrats should oust him then. They can't peddle they are anti this behavior but when one of their own gets caught with with their hand in the cookie jar, they say, "whooooa wait a second..."

I think you're right, but my question in reply is should the Dems wait until the ethics committee conducts an investigation? I kinda feel like there should be some version of due process available here, but then I'm also not confident in the Senate Ethics Committee to work promptly.

[Balta1701]

Good, later creep. At least networks and cable companies hold their employees to higher standards than we hold our president

So everyone remembers when Matt Lauer moderated a candidate forum and spent 1/2 his time asking someone about emails right? Birds of a feather.

[StrangeSox]

So everyone remembers when Matt Lauer moderated a candidate forum and spent 1/2 his time asking someone about emails right? Birds of a feather.

 

remember when Matt Lauer grilled Anne Hathaway about a paparazzi’s exploitative upskirt photo of her, said “seen a lot of you lately,” then asked if she’d learned her lesson? https://t.co/8vYDG754e9

— Amanda Hess (@amandahess) November 29, 2017

 

Lauer has tens of millions of dollars and, aside from a tarnished reputation, won't ever face any real consequences for his behavior.

 

[pettie4sox]

I think you're right, but my question in reply is should the Dems wait until the ethics committee conducts an investigation? I kinda feel like there should be some version of due process available here, but then I'm also not confident in the Senate Ethics Committee to work promptly.

 

Yeah... I have zero confidence. I feel like they will try to protect him. Instead of being human beings, you are blue or red; everything else be damned.

[RockRaines]

Yeah... I have zero confidence. I feel like they will try to protect him. Instead of being human beings, you are blue or red; everything else be damned.

As long as we have a serial predator as the leader of this country its going to be that way.

[pettie4sox]

As long as we have a serial predator as the leader of this country its going to be that way.

 

Just need some hard evidence and pray it's enough for people to see the light. I am talking about the ones that can be saved.

[StrangeSox]

He was caught on tape bragging about sexually assaulting women and getting away with it because of his power and fame and had over a dozen accusers come forward. Republicans in Alabama are about to elect a man who is facing multiple serious child predator allegations.

 

It wouldn't matter.

[StrangeSox]

The Associated Press‏Verified account @AP 6m6 minutes ago BREAKING: White House official: Trump will not campaign for embattled Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore before Dec. 12 election.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/29/t...a-senate-267825

 

 

(this is also a blatant violation of the Hatch Act, but it won't matter)

[pettie4sox]

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/29/t...a-senate-267825

 

 

(this is also a blatant violation of the Hatch Act, but it won't matter)

 

Jones is a pedophile too?

[Balta1701]

Yeah... I have zero confidence. I feel like they will try to protect him. Instead of being human beings, you are blue or red; everything else be damned.

The Ethics Committees were supposed to be 1/2 Dems and 1/2 Reps last time I looked at the rules. So, I'm not as worried about one party covering for themselves as I am either one party stymieing all ethics investigations or the 2 parties working together to "make sure these kinds of investigations go away permanently".

 

There used to be a set of rules where if one party triggered an ethics investigation, the other party could do nothing to stop it. They partially got rid of that to try to protect Tom Delay, but I haven't looked into the committee rules recently enough to know how that would proceed.

 

The other thing that worries me is that these aren't fast. This could be "NFL investigating Ezekiel Elliott" pace and that's not acceptable to me, but I also can't suggest another body other than the Senate Ethics committee that could provide due process, and if there is no due process then this type of allegation becomes open to abuse in a way that discredits people who come forwards after actually being abused.

[StrangeSox]

Alabama Rep. Mo Brooks: Roy Moore accuser forged yearbook inscription, is 'clearly a liar'

[StrangeSox]

BREAKING: Garrison Keillor says he's been fired by Minnesota Public Radio over allegations of inappropriate behavior.

— The Associated Press (@AP) November 29, 2017

 

Jesus, whatever Garrison did must have been bad. They're not just firing him, they're scrubbing all old PHC broadcasts with him in it and renaming the show.

 

 

 

VV the "Salem Witch Trials" or "Red Scare" analogy only works if the allegations are fake. It's not like Elizabeth Proctor was actually practicing witchcraft.

Edited November 29, 2017 by StrangeSox

[southsider2k5]

This is unreal. I am struggling to think of an era in our history where the pendulum on something has moved so far, so fast, and so many people have been taken down in the process. It is like the Salem Witch trials or the Red Scare in terms of size and scope.

[StrangeSox]

Keillor published an editorial yesterday in WaPo defending Franken

[RockRaines]

Keillor published an editorial yesterday in WaPo defending Franken

Puke. I cannot understand why politicians are immune to this.

[southsider2k5]

Puke. I cannot understand why politicians are immune to this.

 

It is all about partisianism. An entire generation has been raised to believe Party over Country.

[pettie4sox]

It is all about partisianism. An entire generation has been raised to believe Party over Country.

 

Truth.

 

People need to wake up and fast.

[RockRaines]

Truth.

 

People need to wake up and fast.

We need to get these old f***s out of office first and foremost.

[StrangeSox]

The Variety story on Lauer is out

 

http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/matt-laue...men-1202625959/

 

As the co-host of NBC’s “Today,” Matt Lauer once gave a colleague a sex toy as a present. It included an explicit note about how he wanted to use it on her, which left her mortified.

 

On another day, he summoned a different female employee to his office, and then dropped his pants, showing her his penis. After the employee declined to do anything, visibly shaken, he reprimanded her for not engaging in a sexual act.

 

He would sometimes quiz female producers about who they’d slept with, offering to trade names. And he loved to engage in a crass quiz game with men and women in the office: “f***, marry or kill,” in which he would identify the female co-hosts that he’d most like to sleep with.

 

These accounts of Lauer’s behavior at NBC are the result of a two-month investigation by Variety, with dozens of interviews with current and former staffers. Variety has talked to three women who identified themselves as victims of sexual harassment by Lauer, and their stories have been corroborated by friends or colleagues that they told at the time. They have asked for now to remain unnamed, fearing professional repercussions.

 

 

dumb all boomers into the ocean

 

e: good lord

His office was in a secluded space, and he had a button under his desk that allowed him to lock his door from the inside without getting up.

Edited November 29, 2017 by StrangeSox