OmarComing25 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-cubs-al...need-to-retool/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Oct 20, 2017 -> 09:46 AM) Will be interesting to see who Seagar replaces. I think its an easy call: Granderson, Utley or Farmer. Any of those 3 is a good call. Edit: I wonder if they will use Seager to DH during the AL-hosted games. Then you can have Culberson at SS against lefties. Edited October 20, 2017 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) They need to replace at least 2 SP this offseason, and the FA starting pitcher options all look pretty risky. Plus with all the young guys hitting arbitration soon spending a lot on a long term deal for a top FA pitcher would mean drastically increasing the payroll in a few years. Heyward not being good enough to opt out is going to hurt too. I wonder if they trade one of Baez/Russell/Happ/Schwarber for a pitcher. Edited October 20, 2017 by OmarComing25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 20, 2017 -> 09:12 AM) It's not like Theo is working on some razor thin budget, he's thrown some money around too. I'd probably take Theo #1 too, but I'm just impressed with the full roster the Dodgers built. For all the money on their books, their lineup last night was full of guys who don't make much money at all. Theo was certainly ahead of the curve in many ways but many other front offices have caught up. Plus Theo was able to exploit loopholes in the system prior to the latest CBA like no one else (international signings, MLB draft). He doesn't have those advantages any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 QUOTE (Tony @ Oct 20, 2017 -> 10:00 AM) I’d see who has more value on the market between Russell/Happ/Schwarber, and see who is the best starter I could get. Trade Russell, put Happ at 2B, Baez at SS, Almora in CF. and Lester is getting older every year,wouldn't be surprised he has another mediocre year as he has alot of miles on that arm. I could see the cubs struggle to win the division with the talent coming up for the Cards and Brewers unless they trade for pitching from the bench depth which then hurts them as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Think we will see a Schwarber for Betances trade this offseason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 20, 2017 -> 10:40 AM) Think we will see a Schwarber for Betances trade this offseason More control issues for the Cubs bullpen lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 20, 2017 -> 10:40 AM) Think we will see a Schwarber for Betances trade this offseason I'd love for the Yankees to accept that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxjr27 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Tipsheet: Pump the brakes on Cubs dynasty talk http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/jef...518e5480d2.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokona Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) I can't believe half of these fans are in the "well at least we made it this far!" camp To me, the shine really came off this team. Schwarber, bust. Russell, average. Baez, average bat ++ defense. Lester, the end is nigh. Hendricks, took 4 months to get his velocity back. Playing Happ in CF is a joke. And Bryant didn't play well at all. Edited October 20, 2017 by Nokona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 20, 2017 -> 10:40 AM) Think we will see a Schwarber for Betances trade this offseason Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 QUOTE (Nokona @ Oct 20, 2017 -> 12:12 PM) I can't believe half of these fans are in the "well at least we made it this far!" camp To me, the shine really came off this team. Schwarber, bust. Russell, average. Baez, average bat ++ defense. Lester, the end is nigh. Hendricks, took 4 months to get his velocity back. Playing Happ in CF is a joke. And Bryant didn't play well at all. Yes, it would be really nice for them if they had Gleyber Torres and Eloy coming up through their system to fill some of these holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 QUOTE (Nokona @ Oct 20, 2017 -> 11:12 AM) I can't believe half of these fans are in the "well at least we made it this far!" camp To me, the shine really came off this team. Schwarber, bust. Russell, average. Baez, average bat ++ defense. Lester, the end is nigh. Hendricks, took 4 months to get his velocity back. Playing Happ in CF is a joke. And Bryant didn't play well at all. I can. It's been awhile since any Chicago baseball team had back to back post seasons. It appears it's much more difficult to repeat as World Series champs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 QUOTE (whitesoxjr27 @ Oct 20, 2017 -> 09:05 AM) Cubs fans were very salty on the score this morning. Between the texts and the calls, they either want the team blown up or trade away players. Bryant is a bum and so and so needs to go now. They even were bashing the front office. That's hilarious man. Thanks for posting their thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 QUOTE (35thstreetswarm @ Oct 20, 2017 -> 02:57 PM) Yes, it would be really nice for them if they had Gleyber Torres and Eloy coming up through their system to fill some of these holes. To be fair, if they have Torres they likely don't have a ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Schwarber to the Sox for James Shields and Dylan Covey. Had to say before someone else did. Carry on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Rizzo had a very good year. Is there a player more consistent? He hit 32 homers, 109 RBI this year; 32 hrs, 109 RBI also in 2016; 31 homers, 101 RBI in 2015 and 32 homers, 78 RBI in 2014. No way the Cubs will go for Hosmer if they have Rizzo. Wonder who wants Hosmer desperately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 20, 2017 -> 02:39 PM) Rizzo had a very good year. Is there a player more consistent? He hit 32 homers, 109 RBI this year; 32 hrs, 109 RBI also in 2016; 31 homers, 101 RBI in 2015 and 32 homers, 78 RBI in 2014. No way the Cubs will go for Hosmer if they have Rizzo. Wonder who wants Hosmer desperately? What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 20, 2017 -> 02:39 PM) Rizzo had a very good year. Is there a player more consistent? He hit 32 homers, 109 RBI this year; 32 hrs, 109 RBI also in 2016; 31 homers, 101 RBI in 2015 and 32 homers, 78 RBI in 2014. No way the Cubs will go for Hosmer if they have Rizzo. Wonder who wants Hosmer desperately? This is the second time you've brought Hosmer into a discussion that has nothing to do with it. Stop, you're loyalty to the royal blue is showing. Before you can ask, this was your first time. http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=104044 Edited October 21, 2017 by BlackSox13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 20, 2017 -> 06:15 PM) Why? Yanks love Schwarber, Cubs need a power closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 QUOTE (Nokona @ Oct 20, 2017 -> 06:12 PM) I can't believe half of these fans are in the "well at least we made it this far!" camp To me, the shine really came off this team. Schwarber, bust. Russell, average. Baez, average bat ++ defense. Lester, the end is nigh. Hendricks, took 4 months to get his velocity back. Playing Happ in CF is a joke. And Bryant didn't play well at all. Bryant was great in regular season. I have a feeling Russell gets traded before Baez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) The returning bullpen guys will likely be Strop, Edwards, Montgomery (unless he's 5th starter), Justin Wilson, and probably Rondon (in a non-high leverage role). Gotta get 2 good arms. Duensing I guess could come back. Edited October 20, 2017 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Oct 20, 2017 -> 02:48 PM) This is the second time you've brought Homer into a discussion that has nothing to do with it. Stop, you're loyalty to the royal blue is showing. Before you can ask, this was your first time. http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=104044 Lol I noticed that as well and joke about it often. About how he somehow manages to bring the Royals into a lot of discussion that have nothing to do with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 No chance the Yanks would have interest in Schwarber. They have Bird as their future 1B and a healthy Clint Frazier will take over LF and move Gardner to DH. Betances has three arbitration years left so I doubt the Yanks have given up on him yet. As dominant as the Yanks pen is, imagine if they get Betances back on track? Schwarber is literally the new and not improved Pedro Alvarez. More and more teams are shying away from those types. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Quin @ Oct 20, 2017 -> 02:31 PM) To be fair, if they have Torres they likely don't have a ring. I don't disagree. Just crazy to think they could potentially have those two prospects to add to the current group - that would be something. Edited October 20, 2017 by 35thstreetswarm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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