BlackSox13 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Hell f*** yeah! Purposely didn't watch again and followed along on line. I will continue to not watch in hopes of the Dodgers making this a quick series. So bloody happy I can't stand it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxjr27 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Oct 15, 2017 -> 10:06 PM) Hell f*** yeah! Purposely didn't watch again and followed along on line. I will continue to not watch in hopes of the Dodgers making this a quick series. So bloody happy I can't stand it! I'm still nervous even though half the horseshoe fell out tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 The Dodgers are not the Nats. I can’t repeat this enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 QUOTE (KagakuOtoko @ Oct 15, 2017 -> 10:08 PM) The Dodgers are not the Nats. I can’t repeat this enough. They're also short of their best position player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 QUOTE (KagakuOtoko @ Oct 16, 2017 -> 04:08 AM) The Dodgers are not the Nats. I can’t repeat this enough. Yeah they aren't bringing Sammy Solis in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Said it before. Cubs won last year in spite of Maddon not because of him. Cubs fans will soon realize that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxjr27 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Oct 15, 2017 -> 10:12 PM) Said it before. Cubs won last year in spite of Maddon not because of him. Cubs fans will soon realize that. No they won't. Hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 A couple of interesting facts: 1. The last walk-off home run by the Dodgers in the post-season was Kirk Gibson's famous walk-off home run in 1988 on this date (October 15th) 2. Duensing preceded Ubaldo Jiminez taking the loss in last year's AL WC game after Showalter refused to use Zach Britton. Duensing also preceded John Lackey in a similar situation today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Nothing better than seeing Lackey give that home run up.F*** him.2 more boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) Roberts is the superior manager in this series and it's not even close. Edited October 16, 2017 by WhiteSoxfan1986 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 QUOTE (whitesoxjr27 @ Oct 15, 2017 -> 10:08 PM) I'm still nervous even though half the horseshoe fell out tonight. Every little thing is gonna be alright. Dervish vs Hendricks Tuesday, I like it. Odd start time though, 8pm CT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Oct 15, 2017 -> 10:55 PM) Every little thing is gonna be alright. Dervish vs Hendricks Tuesday, I like it. Odd start time though, 8pm CT. My guess is the yankees astros will precede this game hence the later starting time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxjr27 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Oct 15, 2017 -> 10:12 PM) Said it before. Cubs won last year in spite of Maddon not because of him. Cubs fans will soon realize that. Can you expand on that? Find that interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 They were saying on the Score the other day that Maddon's flaw is that he creates a plan early in the day (just as any manager would) but he sticks by it very closely throughout the game and doesn't adjust his plan much at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxjr27 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/rosen...016-column.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 To be quite honest, as a distant observer, I think it's appalling that fans would be wanting Maddon to go away. He may have made a mistake with Lackey, but look at what happens when you get rid of such a manager. It could be 10x worse like the White Sox or bulls situations... Joe Maddon is a fine/great manager and seems like a guy the players want to play for. A+ to him. Cubs aren't going to be able to win every World series from here on out and changing a manager would be a terrible decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) If Maddon has a nice roster, he wins. The other stuff, like petting zoos during spring training, as long as he wins, is considered genius. If he had a 76 win roster, he would get killed for it. If Lackey came in last night and got the job done, and he was able to use Wade Davis to close, and the Cubs won, they would have been kissing his ass all day today, just like they did when Ozzie brought in El Duque in Boston. If what probably 99% of people thought would happen when El Duque entered and the Sox lost, Ozzie would have been an idiot. They are different but they are the same. Both guys are/were gold for the media, and things get a little slanted to where they get/got even more credit than they deserved when their teams won. Joe amaddon seems like a pretty cool guy. I just doubt he is so much smarter about baseball than everyone else. He has been in good situations. When he started in Tampa, they were awful and lost, and they got awful again and lost so he fled. Edited October 16, 2017 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxjr27 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Joe Maddon Keeps Shooting Himself in the Foot http://thebiglead.com/2017/10/16/joe-maddo...lf-in-the-foot/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 16, 2017 -> 09:01 PM) If Maddon has a nice roster, he wins. The other stuff, like petting zoos during spring training, as long as he wins, is considered genius. If he had a 76 win roster, he would get killed for it. If Lackey came in last night and got the job done, and he was able to use Wade Davis to close, and the Cubs won, they would have been kissing his ass all day today, just like they did when Ozzie brought in El Duque in Boston. If what probably 99% of people thought would happen when El Duque entered and the Sox lost, Ozzie would have been an idiot. They are different but they are the same. Both guys are/were gold for the media, and things get a little slanted to where they get/got even more credit than they deserved when their teams won. Joe amaddon seems like a pretty cool guy. I just doubt he is so much smarter about baseball than everyone else. He has been in good situations. When he started in Tampa, they were awful and lost, and they got awful again and lost so he fled. This is a very good post. I do agree with this post almost 100 percent. I think talent wins in the long run, but I've said on here before that if a manager is really really bad, that manager could screw up a team that has WS talent. By that bad, I mean Bevington and Robin. Clown is the right word for Bevington, maybe a little too harsh for Robin, but Robin was close to buffoon-like status. Like Dusty. I don't think Dusty is a buffoon and he could easily be a WS manager as well. s*** happens when your team is not quite good enough. Edited October 16, 2017 by greg775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 QUOTE (whitesoxjr27 @ Oct 16, 2017 -> 03:17 PM) Joe Maddon Keeps Shooting Himself in the Foot http://thebiglead.com/2017/10/16/joe-maddo...lf-in-the-foot/ This quote cracks me up. I really just needed him for the save tonight,” Maddon said of Davis. “He had limited pitches. It was one inning only, and in these circumstances you don’t get him up and then don’t get him in. So if we had caught the lead, he would have pitched. That’s it.” The game is tied 1-1 in the bottom of the 9th on the road, his offense struggling, his team down 1-0 in the series and he's concerned about getting Davis the save? Talk about putting the cart before the horse. At that point in the game, the most important thing is preserving that 1-1 tie to get to extra innings. Seriously, that's a Dusty Baker move. I think we've all watched enough baseball to know that plenty of managers have used their closer in the 9th to preserve the tie and hope for some offense in extra innings. It's OK Joe Maddon , keep managing like this, it's making us Sox fans quite happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Oct 16, 2017 -> 04:08 PM) This quote cracks me up. The game is tied 1-1 in the bottom of the 9th on the road, his offense struggling, his team down 1-0 in the series and he's concerned about getting Davis the save? Talk about putting the cart before the horse. At that point in the game, the most important thing is preserving that 1-1 tie to get to extra innings. Seriously, that's a Dusty Baker move. I think we've all watched enough baseball to know that plenty of managers have used their closer in the 9th to preserve the tie and hope for some offense in extra innings. It's OK Joe Maddon , keep managing like this, it's making us Sox fans quite happy. I think the emphasis needs to be on not getting him up and then not using him, as opposed to the save part. He was clearly taking a gamble, and it backfired, but he obviously was trying to optimize his usage considering he could only get up once. As was said in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, Joe Maddon, "you chose poorly." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Yets Yo Doyers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Cubs fans calling the score want to bench Heyward, Baez, Bryant, Schwarber, and maybe Zobrist too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Can you imagine being a baseball player where your one tool is tagging runners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxjr27 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 17, 2017 -> 07:53 AM) Cubs fans calling the score want to bench Heyward, Baez, Bryant, Schwarber, and maybe Zobrist too Perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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