Balta1701 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 R or L? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 11:59 AM) R or L? R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Full report on new White Sox RHP Thyago Vieira analyzing the Mariners second trade in 2 days (and I'm sure not their last of the offseason). https://t.co/zjHjlB2esa https://twitter.com/jjcoop36/status/931217490742513665 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Great move, way more interesting of a prospect than I thought we could get for just bonus money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 11:18 AM) Just give away all the international money to Otani's suitors for more warm bodies. This isn't even just warm body. This is an 80 fastball with potentially major league average off speed stuff from what I was reading. He has top end closer potential, especially if he can fix mechanics and control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 11:31 AM) While this is technically true, but providing more signing money to the teams that are the most likely and competitive to sign him they are decreasing their chances each day. We are not suitors for the guy. Good call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 12:01 PM) Full report on new White Sox RHP Thyago Vieira analyzing the Mariners second trade in 2 days (and I'm sure not their last of the offseason). https://t.co/zjHjlB2esa https://twitter.com/jjcoop36/status/931217490742513665 BA doesn't even mention his curve Vieira’s fastball alone could help him carve out a role in a big league bullpen if he can throw with even fringe-average control, but to have long-term big league success, he’s going to have to find a second pitch. He’s worked on sharpening his fringy slider and he’s toyed with a split-fingered fastball as well as a changeup, but none grade out as more than a 40 on the 20-to-80 scouting scale right now. If he’s going to work in higher-leverage situations he’ll have to develop an offspeed pitch to keep hitters from just looking for his fastball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Great trade. These are the types of moves that they need to be making. They've traded international pool money for SS Yeyson Yrizarri, RHP Ryan Burr, and now Thyago Vieria. Not a bad haul for $$ that you basically couldn't spend anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 12:42 PM) Great trade. These are the types of moves that they need to be making. They've traded international pool money for SS Yeyson Yrizarri, RHP Ryan Burr, and now Thyago Vieria. Not a bad haul for $ that you basically couldn't spend anyway. You know if we had come out of July 2 with that kind of a group of guys, I sure would have been happy. You really can't argue with how aggressively he has been selling slot space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Wow, powerful statement. Kyle GlaserVerified account @KyleAGlaser 2h2 hours ago Kyle Glaser Retweeted Chicago White Sox The #WhiteSox just acquired one of the Mariners top 10 prospects and a potential end-of-game reliever. Only context this make sense for #Mariners is if they’re trying to rack up $$ for a run at Otani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Jonathan MayoVerified account @JonathanMayo 1h1 hour ago The @Mariners are getting $500K from @whitesox in Vieira deal. Prepping for an Ohtani bid? Now have $1.5575 mil to offer (M's have spent $3.9425 mil of $5.5 mil total pool) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 12:56 PM) Jonathan MayoVerified account @JonathanMayo 1h1 hour ago The @Mariners are getting $500K from @whitesox in Vieira deal. Prepping for an Ohtani bid? Now have $1.5575 mil to offer (M's have spent $3.9425 mil of $5.5 mil total pool) Also worth noting in the follow up tweet, he calls the previous AP figures wrong. Jonathan MayoVerified account @JonathanMayo 12m12 minutes ago Jonathan Mayo Retweeted Lookout Landing No, the figures in that story are incorrect. They had just over $1 mil until this trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 JJ CooperVerified account @jjcoop36 1h1 hour ago This White Sox system is probably the first ever to have 3 pitchers who have touched 102+ mph in game action before. Some FO official with Trackman access might be able to correct me (my DMs are open). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Love this. Great use of cap space we can't use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Full write-up on Vieira on FutureSox, including a video, scouting info, cap space used, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 f*** yea, good move. Taking advantage of desperate GMs like Dipoto is smart. Here in Seattle the heat is starting to rise and I think Dipoto is going to triple down on this s***ty Mariners team the same way the Sox did a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Loooooooove this move. This dude had electric stuff in the Futures Game, I had no clue who he was prior to that and came away impressed. This is exactly the type of move that Rick should be making. Even if you improve his control just a bit, he is instantly a high leverage reliever at the major league level. I can think of no better coaching staff to try and harness his abilities. In a couple years, we will look back fondly on this trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) The White Sox should find a couple of other teams that want to up their offers to Otani and take some prospects off their hands. If you can get a top 8 prospect for $500k, what could you get for a couple of million? Edited November 16, 2017 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 01:33 PM) The White Sox should find a couple of other teams that want to up their offers to Otani and take some prospects off their hands. If you can get a top 8 prospect for $500k, what could you get for a couple of million? Twins, Yankees, and Rangers come to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 01:35 PM) Twins, Yankees, and Rangers come to mind. The Yankees have a 40 man roster crunch problem as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Are we aware of how much money we have left? We had 2 300k signings (I believe). 4.75 million-600k = 4.15 million 4.15 million - 500k = 3.65 million Say the other two were 500k, then were still ~2.5, so yes we can make quite a few more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 01:37 PM) The Yankees have a 40 man roster crunch problem as well. *Suggestive eyebrow raise* Though the sonny gray trade helped a bit in that regard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 01:37 PM) Are we aware of how much money we have left? We had 2 300k signings (I believe). 2.973 million-600k = 2.373 million 2.373 million - 500k = 1.873 million Unknown how much we traded on the other two transactions correct? Say those were both 500k on conservative end, hopefully conservatively we could make another trade like this. I thought they get more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 01:39 PM) I thought they get more than that. I'm sorry! That was 2016-2017 so this is 4.75, my bad everyone I"m going to edit the original post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 01:38 PM) *Suggestive eyebrow raise* Though the sonny gray trade helped a bit in that regard. One name I look at, Billy McKinney. Only 23, did well in AA/AAA, has no future in NY. I think he would be a good piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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