winninguglyin83 Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 That's what Tracy Ringolsby, the national baseball writer for the Rocky Mountain News, reports in the latest issue of Baseball America. He sez the $15 million cut has been ordered by Reinsdorf. Of course, he also reports that a number of other clubs have been ordered to cut payroll, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 Um, so that would leave us with a payroll of about $40 million. Theres no way that is true unless they are counting on Colon not resigning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 Is there a link to this story? Just Monday KW said a slight increase... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 That's what Tracy Ringolsby, the national baseball writer for the Rocky Mountain News, reports in the latest issue of Baseball America. He sez the $15 million cut has been ordered by Reinsdorf. Of course, he also reports that a number of other clubs have been ordered to cut payroll, too. But Kenny Williams said that he would ADD payroll...hmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 Is there a link to this story? Just Monday KW said a slight increase... It's in the print edition of Baseball America, should be able to find it on a local newsstand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted October 1, 2003 Author Share Posted October 1, 2003 not sure if it is on-line yet. got my Baseball America in the mail today. check www.baseballamerica.com. then columnists for tRacy ringolsby. He outlines alleged salary cuts that a lot of teams are going to make Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 not sure if it is on-line yet. got my Baseball America in the mail today. check www.baseballamerica.com. then columnists for tRacy ringolsby. He outlines alleged salary cuts that a lot of teams are going to make It is subscriber only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 If its true, then KW isn't the right man for the gm job and I don't know who is...well I do know This would be a horrible move by JR. Right when fans are coming back you stab them in the back. I'll take the wait and see approach though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 I believe both may be correct. By trying to cut $15 million he may wind up with only a slight increase. Or the theory I like is: Perhaps the $15 million is a couple/few players who will not be back. Cut $15M in those salaries and add $20 in new players. I'm too old to worry about speculation. It won't do any good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 I believe both may be correct. By trying to cut $15 million he may wind up with only a slight increase. Or the theory I like is: Perhaps the $15 million is a couple/few players who will not be back. Cut $15M in those salaries and add $20 in new players. I'm too old to worry about speculation. It won't do any good. LOGIC HAS NO PLACE ON THESE BOARDS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 He sez the $15 million cut has been ordered by Reinsdorf. Bye bye Maggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 You don't authorize your GM to go out and ADD players during the season only to turn around and cut $15M in payroll. We might even have less to work with then the Expos. I don't put much credence in these stories. After all look at the timing of this report-only 4 days or so after the end of the regular season. You wonder if there have even been any front office meetings yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted October 1, 2003 Author Share Posted October 1, 2003 This column was written before last weekend, I'm certain. And it's just one paragraph in a rundown of many, many teams. And most are planning to CUT, not add, payroll. probably part of a owners' strategy to roll back payroll -- or at least try to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 If its true, then KW isn't the right man for the gm job and I don't know who is...well I do know This would be a horrible move by JR. Right when fans are coming back you stab them in the back. I'll take the wait and see approach though. Highest attendance in years and KW and JR lie as usual..what's new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 You don't authorize your GM to go out and ADD players during the season only to turn around and cut $15M in payroll. Well, I don't, and you don't, but Reinsdorf do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 I believe both may be correct. By trying to cut $15 million he may wind up with only a slight increase. Or the theory I like is: Perhaps the $15 million is a couple/few players who will not be back. Cut $15M in those salaries and add $20 in new players. I'm too old to worry about speculation. It won't do any good. LOGIC HAS NO PLACE ON THESE BOARDS! Sorry, I'll stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 All I gotta say is it had better not be true. If it is, the team will go from the decent attendance of this year to a record-low season attendance overnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 I think you're misunderstanding this quote. The SOX payroll as it stands right now is at 69MIL. I know that's not what JR actually paid, but that's what's on the books right now for 2004. Until Everett & Alomar become FA's they are still considered SOX property. So if you lop off 15MIL from 69MIL you're looking at 54MIL which is what all of us have been saying so far. Logic does have a place on these boards. As I said before, JR has no justification for a payroll < 2001. The SOX finished with 1,939,524 in attendance. That's nearly identical to 2000 & a 300K increase from 2002. About a 17% increase from 2002. There's no justification to lowering the payroll below the 55MIL mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 If its true, then KW isn't the right man for the gm job and I don't know who is...well I do know This would be a horrible move by JR. Right when fans are coming back you stab them in the back. I'll take the wait and see approach though. Pat Gillick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 If its true, then KW isn't the right man for the gm job and I don't know who is...well I do know This would be a horrible move by JR. Right when fans are coming back you stab them in the back. I'll take the wait and see approach though. Pat Gillick. Well I was giving my own vote of confidence Gillick should be hired by someone...he's an exceptional gm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted October 2, 2003 Author Share Posted October 2, 2003 What I really like about Gillick is he has standards he won't compromise he got out of Balty when he saw what direction management was taking that club and now that Seattle management has failed to spend down the stretch for two straight seasons, he knows the run is over there. That club is ready to plunge. Cameron, McLemore and Rhodes are all free agents. Edgar might retire. They can't wait to get Garcia outta town. That's a place that led the AL in attendance and they're awfully conservative with their spending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 What I really like about Gillick is he has standards he won't compromise he got out of Balty when he saw what direction management was taking that club and now that Seattle management has failed to spend down the stretch for two straight seasons, he knows the run is over there. That club is ready to plunge. Cameron, McLemore and Rhodes are all free agents. Edgar might retire. They can't wait to get Garcia outta town. That's a place that led the AL in attendance and they're awfully conservative with their spending. Which means he isn't going to be interested in being the GM of a team that is a readheaded step child. He is going to want to go somewhere he can win. Heck if the Yankees don't win it all, I could see him landing there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 If that's true and JR is gonna cut payroll than I'm gonna consider real profiundly not to go overboard rooting for this team until EL CHEAPO sells it. Reinsdork isn't serious about winning a Ring.. Or maybe he is and thinks that with scrubs and a 40 Million dollar pay roll it can get done.. REINSDORK :fyou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted October 2, 2003 Author Share Posted October 2, 2003 not sure Gillick has the personality to work with Steinbrenner. But Cashman will be a goner -- especially if the Yankees lose to the Contraction Twins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 not sure Gillick has the personality to work with Steinbrenner. But Cashman will be a goner -- especially if the Yankees lose to the Contraction Twins. The Yankees may be the real big story in waiting. If they lose to the Twins or even in the next round and not make the World Series you might see a lot of changes in the Big Apple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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