Chicago White Sox Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 18, 2017 -> 11:16 PM) That’s now eight teams who have enquired about Machado, six of which putting offers in front of the #Orioles. Popular. https://twitter.com/DanClarkSports/status/942980240241975296 Diamondbacks also in on #Machado - one of the bigger offers to date including position player(s), a mid-rotation arm, and multiple prospects. https://twitter.com/DanClarkSports/status/942979939032117248 Sounds like a lot on the surface, but it’s probably Jake Lamb (3 years), Patrick Corbin (1 year), & a couple middling prospects. I’d love for the Orioles to accept that, because there is no chance in hell the Diamondbacks can afford Machado long-term. What’s really shocking to me is that Orioles fans want to trade Machado and still somehow compete against the Yankees & Red Sox. They should just be blowing the whole damn thing up and acquiring as much high ceiling talent as possible. I have a feeling their fanbase is going to be extremely dissapointed with the eventual return if the requirement is major league pieces or prospects on the cusp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Drury is involved, not Lamb. I think that package is better than Cease and Adams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 06:41 AM) Drury is involved, not Lamb. I think that package is better than Cease and Adams I haven’t seen that anywhere (these all rumors anyways), but I’d probably prefer Cease & Adams. At least Cease offers star potential if he hits. If you swap Adams for Fulmer I think it’s no doubt a better deal unless you really believe in Drury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 08:07 AM) I haven’t seen that anywhere (these all rumors anyways), but I’d probably prefer Cease & Adams. At least Cease offers star potential if he hits. If you swap Adams for Fulmer I think it’s no doubt a better deal unless you really believe in Drury. I tend to ignore most of these "inside sources" rumors. Did we see accurate rumors of the Stanton deal as it ended up before it happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 QUOTE (SCCWS @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 07:17 AM) I tend to ignore most of these "inside sources" rumors. Did we see accurate rumors of the Stanton deal as it ended up before it happened? Oh I agree, but the Diamondbacks rumor actually makes some sense to me form AZ’s perspective. Move some spare parts and get a huge upgrade in Machado in a going for it season and then recoup a draft pick next offseason. I just don’t see why on earth Baltimore would want those pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 07:39 AM) Oh I agree, but the Diamondbacks rumor actually makes some sense to me form AZ’s perspective. Move some spare parts and get a huge upgrade in Machado in a going for it season and then recoup a draft pick next offseason. I just don’t see why on earth Baltimore would want those pieces. This entire thread is built on the premise Baltimore would be giving Machado away for practically nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FT35 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 08:48 AM) This entire thread is built on the premise Baltimore would be giving Machado away for practically nothing. Ha. That or "who could give up the most for a 1-year rental." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Brittany GhiroliVerified account @Britt_Ghiroli 1h1 hour ago Nothing new and nothing imminent on Machado. But as Dan Duquette said last week, the Os are going to have to decide to "fish or cut bait" soon: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Ralph, i.e. Jim Bowden (https://deadspin.com/jim-bowden-caught-stealing-from-fake-twitter-account-d-1614081824) is claiming to know things that seem concievable https://twitter.com/JimBowdenGM/status/943167265108824066 Jim Bowden @JimBowdenGM 31m31 minutes ago More 8 teams have made trade offers to the Orioles for Manny Machado but sources doubt that ownership will approve a trade even if recommended by GM Dan Duquette edit: obviously seems realistic but also Jim Bowden doesn't have sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 QUOTE (SCCWS @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 07:17 AM) I tend to ignore most of these "inside sources" rumors. Did we see accurate rumors of the Stanton deal as it ended up before it happened? I believe we did see accurate rumors. Everyone had him going to either Cardinals or SF, and apparently he declined the trade to the Cardinals after it was agreed upon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Both White Sox and Cubs still in on conversations about Manny Machado . ( sources confirm. https://twitter.com/MLBBruceLevine/status/943241596564275200 It's Bruce so probably take with grain of salt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 04:12 PM) Both White Sox and Cubs still in on conversations about Manny Machado . ( sources confirm. https://twitter.com/MLBBruceLevine/status/943241596564275200 It's Bruce so probably take with grain of salt Watch this somehow queue the eyeballs from WSD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 QUOTE (Soxnfins @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 02:31 PM) Watch this somehow queue the eyeballs from WSD. He's usually not someone that just stirs the pot based on questionable sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 James Fox @JamesFox917 5m5 minutes ago More So @MLBBruceLevine says #Orioles asked the #Cubs for Javier Baez in exchange for Machado. I think he stays in Baltimore. They missed the boat on dealing him if they are asking for guys like that in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Bruce Levine piping in has me more confident than ever this deal is dead. Sorry but last week we heard they had deals good enough to bring to ownership, and it didn’t happen. Now they are still waiting for a deal they like? It ain’t happening, this thing is dead. At least from White Sox perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 04:44 PM) James Fox @JamesFox917 5m5 minutes ago More So @MLBBruceLevine says #Orioles asked the #Cubs for Javier Baez in exchange for Machado. I think he stays in Baltimore. They missed the boat on dealing him if they are asking for guys like that in return. Why wouldn't the cubs make that move? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 04:35 PM) He's usually not someone that just stirs the pot based on questionable sources. Right. I guess what I was trying to say, watch more smoke come out of the cracks by this leaking out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 04:44 PM) James Fox @JamesFox917 5m5 minutes ago More So @MLBBruceLevine says #Orioles asked the #Cubs for Javier Baez in exchange for Machado. I think he stays in Baltimore. They missed the boat on dealing him if they are asking for guys like that in return. At this point they should take anything they value higher than a Top 50 pick in the 2019 draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 04:58 PM) Why wouldn't the cubs make that move? Cubs won't but if the O's are asking for that kind of return they will not be trading him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 04:35 PM) He's usually not someone that just stirs the pot based on questionable sources. Sometimes he throws the eyeballs out at random reports that has the Sox connected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 04:44 PM) James Fox @JamesFox917 5m5 minutes ago More So @MLBBruceLevine says #Orioles asked the #Cubs for Javier Baez in exchange for Machado. I think he stays in Baltimore. They missed the boat on dealing him if they are asking for guys like that in return. I would have done something involving Baez.... I just don't think he is THAT good, but that's jmo. Edited December 19, 2017 by Soxnfins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwest Sider Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Oh well, now we just hope the Sox throw the most money at him next year and that he's a money talks kind of guy and not another "Gotta play for the Yankees" kind of superstar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 QUOTE (South Sider @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 11:02 PM) Oh well, now we just hope the Sox throw the most money at him next year and that he's a money talks kind of guy and not another "Gotta play for the Yankees" kind of superstar. Usually, those are one and the same. Most money=Yankees/Dodgers. There are other 30 something veterans (like we're seeing signing with the Warriors or Cavs) who are going to sign with the Yankees/Red Sox/Dodgers/Cubs for less than market value for a shot at a ring, and those might be more helpful pick-ups (the finishing touches around the young core of talent) in the overall scheme of things than overbidding for one or two superstars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxforlife05 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 04:52 PM) Bruce Levine piping in has me more confident than ever this deal is dead. Sorry but last week we heard they had deals good enough to bring to ownership, and it didn’t happen. Now they are still waiting for a deal they like? It ain’t happening, this thing is dead. At least from White Sox perspective. Good I was hoping we wouldn’t make that mistake. I don’t think any top tier players will sign here until most of the roster is in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 More info coming out, it appears the offers aren't good enough. Surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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