bmags Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 08:36 PM) Any speculation on what the offer was? I saw many said O's like Rutherford I hope it was 3-4 players that would obviously fail a physical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 08:40 PM) I have a feeling he may not have seen Hahn's comments today. I think he is probably right. I think it is just a token effort to get their name attached to his for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Moncada, Giolito, Kopech, Robert, Jimenez all off limits hopefully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 09:42 PM) I think he is probably right. I think it is just a token effort to get their name attached to his for next year. I wouldn't put it past the O's to plant this story. I mean if I'm shopping a player I want suitors to think two of the teams with the top farms Yankees and Sox are interested. I just don't see the fit. Machado is not going to get you to a wildcard and in the offseason all it will take is money. Some other team in win now mode will overpay as they should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (wrathofhahn @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 08:58 PM) I wouldn't put it past the O's to plant this story. I mean if I'm shopping a player I want suitors to think two of the teams with the top farms Yankees and Sox are interested. I just don't see the fit. Machado is not going to get you to a wildcard and in the offseason all it will take is money. Some other team in win now mode will overpay as they should. Not just money but they would lose a draft pick too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 10:00 PM) Not just money but they would lose a draft pick too Haven't even thought of that...Wonder if they'll suck enough to protect the first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 How good of friends were Castillo and Machado? Maybe that plays a part with being able to convince a player about the "Sox culture." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I have a hard time believing JR would be good signing even Machado to a long term deal for the money he'd demand.. however, trading a few spects for a proven player is fine to me. As long as they aren't the Sox top ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 09:04 PM) Haven't even thought of that...Wonder if they'll suck enough to protect the first Any team that signs a player who has rejected a qualifying offer is subject to the loss of one or more Draft picks. While a team's highest first-round pick is exempt from forfeiture, any additional first-round picks as well as Competitive Balance picks are eligible. Three tiers of Draft pick forfeiture -- which are based on the financial status of the signing team -- are in place to serve as a penalty for signing a player who rejected a qualifying offer http://m.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/qualifying-offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 RT @DanClarkSports: Several offers are on the table for Manny Machado - Cardinals, White Sox, Yankees, Phillies and Giants. #Orioles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 10:13 PM) RT @DanClarkSports: Several offers are on the table for Manny Machado - Cardinals, White Sox, Yankees, Phillies and Giants. #Orioles I can assume BAL favors a deal with STL, SF, CWS, PHI, and NYY in that order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 09:15 PM) I can assume BAL favors a deal with STL, SF, CWS, PHI, and NYY in that order ? Why’s that? I’d prolly rank philly first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 10:18 PM) ? Why’s that? I’d prolly rank philly first. Don't feel like they have the prospects to move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 10:21 PM) Don't feel like they have the prospects to move But the Giants do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 10:22 PM) But the Giants do? That initial deal for Stanton looked pretty attractive SF also isn't rebuilding really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 The giants farm system is garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 10:24 PM) That initial deal for Stanton looked pretty attractive SF also isn't rebuilding really I believe that rumored deal was proven to be BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 10:26 PM) The giants farm system is garbage. Acording to Mayo they don't have one top 100 prospect. I still kind of like Beede though. Though his stuff is supposed to have declined since the draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Do. Not. Like. Why? He's not going to sign an extension, so why? This is such a dumb White Sox move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mataipaepae Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (Jack Parkman @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 09:43 PM) Do. Not. Like. Why? He's not going to sign an extension, so why? This is such a dumb White Sox move. I think our is only dumb by who they have offered. I would be ok if say out was Rutherford and Fulmer as the 2 headliners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (mataipaepae @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 09:51 PM) I think our is only dumb by who they have offered. I would be ok if say out was Rutherford and Fulmer as the 2 headliners Even that is too much in my book. With that offer I'd have to get a 72 hr window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 10:28 PM) I believe that rumored deal was proven to be BS. BS? Thought Stanton just wouldn't move his NTC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 10:59 PM) BS? Thought Stanton just wouldn't move his NTC I’m talking about the players involved. Sounds like the return wasn’t nearly as good as originally reported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwill Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I think STL should really consider moving their chips to the table. Flaherty, Hudson and Bader would be an interesting get for O's. St. Louis has the money to extend Machado. They could really make a run at the Cubs in 18' with that lineup. Also, Put me in the boat unless it is a very minimal prospects the White Sox should just be patient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 https://theathletic.com/184555/2017/12/14/r...e-orioles-star/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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