Iwritecode Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I'm surprised there wasn't already a thread on this... https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/14/technolo...epeal-vote.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Once again its going to hurt the people who support it. Pepe bots, Maga bots and the like arent going to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Still has to get through Congress....sh*t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 02:07 PM) Still has to get through Congress....sh*t Congress will do the right thing... :lolhitting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Trump: We need net neutrality. Advisor: Obama agrees. Trump: F*ck the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Ruin the internet to own the libs. It's going to take years to fix the mess being made right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 03:07 PM) Still has to get through Congress....sh*t Does it? Can you source this? I was under the impression that Congress could vote to overturn the repeal, but if they don't do anything it'll go forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Reddy @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 02:35 PM) Does it? Can you source this? I was under the impression that Congress could vote to overturn the repeal, but if they don't do anything it'll go forward. Saw a reporter on Twitter. Maybe that is what they meant. Can we convince Trump that Ajit Pai is Muslim? Edited December 14, 2017 by Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 02:49 PM) Saw a reporter on Twitter. Maybe that is what they meant. Can we convince Trump that Ajit Pai is Muslim? Every single state is going to sue the FCC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 03:49 PM) Saw a reporter on Twitter. Maybe that is what they meant. Can we convince Trump that Ajit Pai is Muslim? Best chance is to get someone to convince Obama to openly praise the sh** out of this decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 02:55 PM) Every single state is going to sue the FCC. Yeah this is going to be challenged and I doubt anything happens for another couple of years. And from there the telecom companies aren't going to change their plans right away. They'll want to pretend like they've been forced to do so due to increase costs of infrastructure or some bulls***. It'll be an interesting world in about 5 years. Disney, Facebook, Google, Netflix v. AT&T, Comcast and Turner. Who wins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Yeah this is completely a regulatory change. Congress can change the law to explicitly include ISP's under title II, but Pai is free to destroy the internet to boost telecom profits all on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 04:33 PM) Yeah this is going to be challenged and I doubt anything happens for another couple of years. And from there the telecom companies aren't going to change their plans right away. They'll want to pretend like they've been forced to do so due to increase costs of infrastructure or some bulls***. It'll be an interesting world in about 5 years. Disney, Facebook, Google, Netflix v. AT&T, Comcast and Turner. Who wins? They've already been caught in the past messing around with throttling and data caps which is why the FCC changed their stance in 2015. Comcast removed neutrality language from their website and official documents earlier this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 03:33 PM) Yeah this is going to be challenged and I doubt anything happens for another couple of years. And from there the telecom companies aren't going to change their plans right away. They'll want to pretend like they've been forced to do so due to increase costs of infrastructure or some bulls***. It'll be an interesting world in about 5 years. Disney, Facebook, Google, Netflix v. AT&T, Comcast and Turner. Who wins? Those arent going to be the sides. Expect teams. Im guessing ATT and Comcast are going to try and work a deal with Disney because Disney is about to leverage their massive ip catalog against everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I tried to help fight it this time around, but honestly couldn't put as much effort into it because I knew that this administration wouldn't listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Cable companies spammed the FCC who fraudulent comments stealing their customers' identities to show support for this. Multiple state attorneys general asked the FCC to delay this vote and for information to investigate the fraudulent activity, which Pai immediately ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 04:04 PM) Those arent going to be the sides. Expect teams. Im guessing ATT and Comcast are going to try and work a deal with Disney because Disney is about to leverage their massive ip catalog against everyone. If this goes ahead, everything will cost something. I put this in layman's terms for someone today. Think about that free wifi you get at a hotel or airport. Maybe you watch an ad or something to get access and its extremely basic and kind of slow, but thats the free (or basic) tier. If you want 4k or HD streaming you have to pay, if you want no ads you have to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Don't worry everyone, I'm sure you can trust Comcast to handle this well and fairly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 05:38 PM) Don't worry everyone, I'm sure you can trust Comcast to handle this well and fairly. I mean, those MF'ers already throttle us without our knowledge. And unless you test and document frequently you would never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 07:42 PM) I mean, those MF'ers already throttle us without our knowledge. And unless you test and document frequently you would never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Comcast is barred from anti neutrality actions for about another year as part of their NBC merger agreement, and I'm sure the FCC will do a strong and competent job enforcing these ahahaha get ready for days caps and throttling almost immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 This is the sort of garbage we can expect more and more of going forward. https://mobile.twitter.com/fawfulfan/status...src=twsrc%5Etfw Among other things, T-Mobile blocked Google Wallet in favor of its own payment system, a clearly anticompetitive practice. The FCC issued rules in 2010 to prevent this, but courts voided it, saying the govt would have to declare ISPs common carriers. So they did in 2015. The 2015 reclassification as common carriers didn't come out of nowhere. It was the result of years of enforcement efforts against anticompetitive behavior and several court cases that said clearly they had to be reclassified to enforce these rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 @TimFederle 2016: I'm the worst year ever. 2017: Hold my beer. 2018: Hold my b [buffering buffering buffering] ee [buffering] r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 (edited) The one hope here is that another major company - Google, Facebook, Amazon, maybe even Disney (via agreements) - comes along and offers up their own service to compete with Comcast/AT&T. If those ISP's are going to throttle service to popular streaming platforms, those companies (Netflix, Disney, Amazon, etc) are going to lose money. They have an incentive to find an alternative means to get their product out to people. Edited December 15, 2017 by JenksIsMyHero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Pai was interviewed today and said that everyone was proven wrong about the repeal ruining the internet because they could tweet today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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