southsider2k5 Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 9 hours ago, Reddy said: I agree. It's always a great thing to see for those of us who want social progress in America. I love when I see my straight white male friends calling out other SWM on their bullshit. Please, I need more hypocrisy in my life, explain how you know black people more than other white people do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Please, I need more hypocrisy in my life, explain how you know black people more than other white people do. Wat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Democrats can — and must — unite in November, says party deputy chair Ellison https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-can-must-unite-november-says-party-vice-chair-ellison-203111653.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) Despite the media/generic ballot telling us the Blue Wave isn't real/has collapsed/etc: In KY-06 last night, Dems submitted 100k ballots compared to 80k in 2016. And in GA, The GOP to Dem vote share was up from 65%-35% in 2014 to 55%-45% in 2018. Edited May 23, 2018 by Reddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 38 minutes ago, Reddy said: Wat. Keep whiteplaining to us how to understand black people because you know best of all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Keep whiteplaining to us how to understand black people because you know best of all. I'd do another "Wat." because my reaction is the same, but I fear that'd get a little redundant for the viewers at home. But like... Wat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 10 hours ago, Dam8610 said: You're probably a socialist. You should read up on it, what you're saying here are many of the problems socialists have with capitalism. You didn't really just "taxation is theft", did you? I like having things like roads, property rights, enforceable contracts, emergency services, and an educated population. These are some of the many services society offers for which society must pay. Taxation is how the government collects the revenue to pay for those services. Ideally, all taxation would be progressive so that those who benefit from society the most pay the most for it. As someone who deals with these matters regularly, I assure you that "pay your taxes or go to jail" is a myth. The IRS will levy your bank account and wages long before they try to put you in jail, because their goal is to get more revenue for the government, not less. Furthermore, the IRS has a debt forgiveness program for those who truly can't afford to pay the amounts they owe. 26 USC 7122, check it out sometime. Because socialism works better for the majority than capitalism. It's logical, considering capitalism's is about greed and taking everything you can, where socialism is about society and making things fair and equitable. Wrong again. People renounce their citizenship without consequence all the time. Apparently, they did it at record rates in 2017. Ah, yes he committed the high moral crime of believing minority communities would be better served by improving economic equality than by constantly trading away their economic freedoms for farcical, pyrrhic "victories" on social issues. I believe that high moral crime is defined in Chapter 18, Subchapter M, Section 2016 of the "Reddy Code of Insufferable Democratic Insanity". Could you confirm? Your points are not fair here. I am not talking about people willing to follow proper channels. I am clearly talking about absolutely refusing to work with the government. Refusing to pay taxes. Refusing to respond. Unlike corporations that you can, you cannot ignore the federal government. By JPs definition, they quite literally own us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 Just now, Reddy said: I'd do another "Wat." because my reaction is the same, but I fear that'd get a little redundant for the viewers at home. But like... Wat. Funny how you see that in everyone else BUT yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2018_generic_congressional_vote-6185.html closest spread between GOP and Dems in one year...fwiw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 10 hours ago, Reddy said: First of all, my candidate is a she. Second of all, I don't think any of the things I'm saying in this thread regarding Sanders are good campaign material in a general election. But the things I'm talking about here resonate with the majority of Democratic voters - specifically the base that has a very big problem with the way Bernie talks about minorities, women and LGBT people. For this reason, his potential candidacy is a huge liability. On the ground, personally, what I talk about is healthcare, jobs, the economy, tax reform, education, sometimes gun control, and jobs, jobs, jobs and more jobs. Those are the only things that matter in most parts of the country. What I talk about here and how I campaign are two very different things. Ah, yes. Known anti-LGBT, anti-woman, white supremacist politician Bernie Sanders. Remember that time he called African Americans "superpredators" and tried to pass laws so gay people wouldn't be allowed to marry. I think it was him, could have been someone else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Funny how you see that in everyone else BUT yourself. How am I doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Notice a trend in terms of the demographic makeups of these tweeters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Your points are not fair here. I am not talking about people willing to follow proper channels. I am clearly talking about absolutely refusing to work with the government. Refusing to pay taxes. Refusing to respond. Unlike corporations that you can, you cannot ignore the federal government. By JPs definition, they quite literally own us. By being a citizen you have implicitly agreed to cooperate with your government. Don't like it? Immigrate somewhere else. I don't get what you don't understand. It isn't like we're all subjects of a king or queen, exactly the opposite. I guess you don't understand democracy . The rules and regulations are agreed to by the population through their representatives. The government doesn't own us, we own the government. What is annoying is that private interests have hijacked the system and people are too afraid to take it back. Why? Because the same private interests control our ability to feed ourselves and provide for our families. If you think the only good government is no government, imagine when there is nothing to protect you when people want to kill you and take your shit. Limited government doesn't work because the private sector has proven that it lacks the ability to act in both their self interest and the public interest. It only acts in the former, and completely ignores the latter. Edited May 23, 2018 by Jack Parkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, Reddy said: Notice a trend in terms of the demographic makeups of these tweeters? Yes they are all pieces of shit playing “Gotcha!”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Yes they are all pieces of shit playing “Gotcha!”. There's nothing problematic at all about a white dude calling women and minorities pieces of shit for voicing their opinions on issues that directly affect them and not you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 35 minutes ago, Reddy said: Notice a trend in terms of the demographic makeups of these tweeters? Is this your "I have black friends" post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 31 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: By being a citizen you have implicitly agreed to cooperate with your government. Don't like it? Immigrate somewhere else. I don't get what you don't understand. It isn't like we're all subjects of a king or queen, exactly the opposite. I guess you don't understand democracy . The rules and regulations are agreed to by the population through their representatives. The government doesn't own us, we own the government. What is annoying is that private interests have hijacked the system and people are too afraid to take it back. Why? Because the same private interests control our ability to feed ourselves and provide for our families. If you think the only good government is no government, imagine when there is nothing to protect you when people want to kill you and take your shit. Limited government doesn't work because the private sector has proven that it lacks the ability to act in both their self interest and the public interest. It only acts in the former, and completely ignores the latter. Don't like it, don't use the corporation? That's apparently what you don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 50 minutes ago, GoSox05 said: Ah, yes. Known anti-LGBT, anti-woman, white supremacist politician Bernie Sanders. Remember that time he called African Americans "superpredators" and tried to pass laws so gay people wouldn't be allowed to marry. I think it was him, could have been someone else. Bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Is this your "I have black friends" post? This was my using my privilege to amplify the voices of marginalized people in a place where their perspectives often go unheard post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Reddy said: This was my using my privilege to amplify the voices of marginalized people in a place where their perspectives often go unheard post. Straight white male, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Straight white male, please. Are you announcing the only type of perspective you respect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Reddy said: Are you announcing the only type of perspective you respect? I am mocking you for pretending that no one else can have a valid opinion on these issues as a straight white male, as you simultaneously tell us what you as a straight white male believe. No one else here has stooped to that level of hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 I am mocking you for pretending that no one else can have a valid opinion on these issues as a straight white male, as you simultaneously tell us what you as a straight white male believe. No one else here has stooped to that level of hypocrisy. You've become a caricature of yourself. Ok let me try and make this really simple. A white person's perspective on issues that matter to marginalized people is invalid if it doesn't take into account the perspectives of marginalized people. Get it? There's a distinction, whether or not you care to realize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Reddy said: You've become a caricature of yourself. Ok let me try and make this really simple. A white person's perspective on issues that matter to marginalized people is invalid if it doesn't take into account the perspectives of marginalized people. Get it? There's a distinction, whether or not you care to realize it. You've lost your mind if you think the people you are debating don't have any perspective on minorities, while only you do. But this the arrogance that continues to elect people like Donald Trump, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: You've lost your mind if you think the people you are debating don't have any perspective on minorities, while only you do. But this the arrogance that continues to elect people like Donald Trump, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. *Republicans continue to elect people like Donald Trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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