Reddy Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Dam8610 said: Just say no to Corpy Booker. This just made me back him even harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: I legit can't tell is this supposed to be an insult? I guess that would go back to the "Is the term 'Corporatist' an insult to someone who is a Corporatist?" debate. 1 hour ago, Reddy said: This just made me back him even harder. So now you like candidates just because I don't? Please tell me again about your progressive values. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 24 minutes ago, Dam8610 said: I guess that would go back to the "Is the term 'Corporatist' an insult to someone who is a Corporatist?" debate. So now you like candidates just because I don't? Please tell me again about your progressive values. And adult conversations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) We don't need someone preaching and giving sermons to the country from the bully pulpit...he's only going to divide the country even more, because, no matter what he says, the "Trumpists" are going to summarily reject anything coming out of Booker's mouth (unless it enriches their pocketbooks). Whoever it is, and it's probably not Biden due to age, and Liz Warren's not going to be taken seriously by the right either...it's going to be someone like Connor Lamb that's younger and more energetic. I would actually vote for Will Hurd of Texas (over Booker) because to be a bi-racial/black Republican in a majority Hispanic district in Texas (the biggest in the entire country by miles to cover from east to west), manage to now always parrot the party line and actually be an expert in foreign policy from his own years of military service and time with the CIA, well, that's someone who can be taken seriously by both sides of the political fence. Unfortunately, that will never happen in a million years. Edited October 10, 2018 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Dam8610 said: So now you like candidates just because I don't? Please tell me again about your progressive values. You sound like a blast at parties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 49 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: We don't need someone preaching and giving sermons to the country from the bully pulpit...he's only going to divide the country even more, because, no matter what he says, the "Trumpists" are going to summarily reject anything coming out of Booker's mouth (unless it enriches their pocketbooks). Whoever it is, and it's probably not Biden due to age, and Liz Warren's not going to be taken seriously by the right either...it's going to be someone like Connor Lamb that's younger and more energetic. I would actually vote for Will Hurd of Texas (over Booker) because to be a bi-racial/black Republican in a majority Hispanic district in Texas (the biggest in the entire country by miles to cover from east to west), manage to now always parrot the party line and actually be an expert in foreign policy from his own years of military service and time with the CIA, well, that's someone who can be taken seriously by both sides of the political fence. Unfortunately, that will never happen in a million years. What on earth? How can you be a hardcore socialist style Dem now (out of nowhere I might add) yet say you'd vote for Will freaking Hurd over Booker? Y'all have lost your collective minds haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Bloomberg re-registers as a Democrat, saying the party must provide 'checks and balances' Bloomberg/Booker ticket! Let's go. We are all going to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Brazil is poised to elect a far-right authoritarian in an unexpected and sweeping political change https://theintercept.com/2018/10/10/watch-the-stunning-rise-of-brazils-far-right-and-what-it-shows-about-western-democracies/ Quote MOST WESTERN NEWS CONSUMERS are aware that, in Brazil, a far-right presidential candidate, Jair Bolsonaro, came close in Sunday’s national election to winning the 50% of the vote needed to win without a run-off (he received 46.2%), and is now highly likely to prevail on October 28 against his opponent, the liberal Workers’ Party’s Fernando Haddad, who finished a distant second with 29%. That result, by itself, is stunning, given that Bolsonaro is an undiluted, explicit authoritarian in the model of Duterte and Sisi – one could easily say “fascist” even using the narrowest and most most rigorous sense of that term – who had been a fringe figure in politics for decades but is now poised to assume the presidency. But the consequences of Sunday’s election extend far beyond Bolsonaro’s likely victory. As I detailed on Monday, Bolsonaro’s extremist party, and others aligned with his ideology, took over Brazilian politics, winning at all levels, and in most regions, with a wave that was as engulfing as it was unexpected. And what makes all of this particularly remarkable is that it happened in a country that prior to this year – in four consecutive national elections beginning with 2002 – had elected the Workers’ Party led first by a firebrand labor leader (Lula) and then by a former Marxist guerilla who was imprisoned and tortured for taking up arms against the country’s military dictatorship (Dilma). It’s hard to put into words what a profound shift this is for the planet’s fifth most-populous country. [...] What is happening in Brazil and, more importantly, why is all of this happening? How serious of a threat is Bolsonaro’s rise to basic democratic institutions and human rights? And what does all of this tell us about what is happening throughout the democratic world? To explore those questions, I spoke (in English) with two Brazilian journalists with The Intercept Brasil, Bruna de Lara and Victor Pougy, and we examined all of these issues. The 35-minute discussion provides, I believe, a clear and illuminating picture of these trends sweeping not just Brazil but all of the democratic world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 50 minutes ago, GoSox05 said: Bloomberg re-registers as a Democrat, saying the party must provide 'checks and balances' Bloomberg/Booker ticket! Let's go. We are all going to die. Well, yeah. This idea that people like Bloomberg or Booker are worse than what's going on right now is some truly insane white male privilege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Bloomberg would be awful. He'd love to gut medicare, medicaid, social security etc. I'd hold my nose and vote for Booker. Not sure about Bloomberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Reddy said: Well, yeah. This idea that people like Bloomberg or Booker are worse than what's going on right now is some truly insane white male privilege. It's not that they would be worse, it's that they won't win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 34 minutes ago, StrangeSox said: Brazil is poised to elect a far-right authoritarian in an unexpected and sweeping political change https://theintercept.com/2018/10/10/watch-the-stunning-rise-of-brazils-far-right-and-what-it-shows-about-western-democracies/ Scary situation in Brazil. It's going to be pretty disgusting to watch American politicians celebrate his victory and support him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 55 minutes ago, GoSox05 said: It's not that they would be worse, it's that they won't win. I can think of no one who would convince the African American population to turn out more than the guy who ran stop & frisk. It's totally their kinda thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 It is going to be funny when he spends like 300 million of his own money in the primary to finish like 7th. Then he will probably just endorse Trump when some progressive wins the primary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: I can think of no one who would convince the African American population to turn out more than the guy who ran stop & frisk. It's totally their kinda thing. Accurate. Like, who does Bloomberg think his base is?? Moderate Republicans and Independents? Because........ That ain't gonna work in a primary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, GoSox05 said: It is going to be funny when he spends like 300 million of his own money in the primary to finish like 7th. Then he will probably just endorse Trump when some progressive wins the primary. Yes to the former, nah to the latter. He hates Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 54 minutes ago, GoSox05 said: Scary situation in Brazil. It's going to be pretty disgusting to watch American politicians celebrate his victory and support him. Genuinely surprised Trump hasn't praised this buffoon yet or openly endorsed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Just now, BigSqwert said: Genuinely surprised Trump hasn't praised this buffoon yet or openly endorsed him. I'm sure he does after he wins. Other Republicans and U.S business leaders will as well. They have supported every other fascist or military dictatorship in South America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, BigSqwert said: Genuinely surprised Trump hasn't praised this buffoon yet or openly endorsed him. He probably has no idea of his election until it runs on Fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Reddy said: Yes to the former, nah to the latter. He hates Trump. He will run a third-party spoiler campaign against Trump and whatever marginally progressive candidate the Democrats end up nominating. He'll either throw the election to Trump or, more hilariously, throw it to the House. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 3 hours ago, GoSox05 said: Bloomberg re-registers as a Democrat, saying the party must provide 'checks and balances' Bloomberg/Booker ticket! Let's go. We are all going to die. With a Bloomberg/Booker ticket we sure would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 21 minutes ago, StrangeSox said: He will run a third-party spoiler campaign against Trump and whatever marginally progressive candidate the Democrats end up nominating. He'll either throw the election to Trump or, more hilariously, throw it to the House. This won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, Dam8610 said: With a Bloomberg/Booker ticket we sure would. With Bernie we will all achieve immortality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Reddy said: With Bernie we will all achieve immortality. We'd be a lot closer with him than Bloomberg or Booker, and especially with both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Reddy said: This won't happen. He's threatened it several times before. He's a narcissistic billionaire. I wouldn't put it past him at all. 6 minutes ago, Reddy said: With Bernie we will all achieve immortality. Bernie Would Have Won Edited October 10, 2018 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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