KnightsOnMintSt Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 No idea who this guy is. Bio says that he has a Master in Sports Administration from Northwestern. Reportedly "broke" Josh Gordon being reinstated. J.M. McNeely @TheJoeyMcNeely Follow Follow @TheJoeyMcNeely More "Oh boy. Source is telling me the #WhiteSox have made a significant offer to FA 3B Mike Moustakas and sides are close on an agreed deal." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 nah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Ugh. Looks like I was on to something with the Sox trying to speed up this rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Makes no sense. Better FAs next year. Would likely be the biggest contract given out in Sox history. I don't know enough about him statistically but maybe they're looking at him longer term sliding into a DH role. That also doesn't even touch the questionable credibility of this "source"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 This would be dumber than trading Gio+ for Machado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Would remain a terrible move. Hell it's even a poor risk if the goal is to get the Royals to offer him a better deal, hurting the Royals (he might say yes and the Royals could balk!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 QUOTE (hi8is @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 11:52 AM) Makes no sense. Better FAs next year. Would likely be the biggest contract given out in Sox history. I don't know enough about him statistically but maybe they're looking at him longer term sliding into a DH role. That also doesn't even touch the questionable credibility of this "source"... Again, judging by the Sox trying to trade for Machado, they don't see themselves as big time players on the next free agent market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 QUOTE (Quin @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 01:55 PM) This would be dumber than trading Gio+ for Machado Honestly, I think that would have been dumber. But it's fair competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 What's the downside? Tying up payroll and losing a draft pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 commence MoustakasTalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 11:56 AM) Honestly, I think that would have been dumber. But it's fair competition. Yeah I don't see how this (signing Mous) would be dumber than trading Giolito for a one year rental lol Edited January 4, 2018 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 I guess the thought would be that there is minimal interest right now and that a team could buy-low on him instead of competing with teams next off-season for bigger guns (Harper/Machado). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwood5892 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 I’m not an insider at all and not going on twitter trying to stir up anything but I got a text from a friend last night who had source that said the Sox were close to a deal. Didn’t have any years or money but that it was close. I don’t believe it myself because it doesn’t make too much sense so take it with a huge grain of salt. Just saw this guy Twitter saying it was close too and thought it was interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 I'm goin to the gym but just wanted to leave this here in case anything does happen: Baseball reference war, 2017: Yolmer Sanchez: 3.5 Mike Moustakas: 1.8 Fangraphs WAR, 2017: Yolmer Sanchez: 2.1 Mike Moustakas: 2.2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 01:01 PM) I guess the thought would be that there is minimal interest right now and that a team could buy-low on him instead of competing with teams next off-season for bigger guns (Harper/Machado). Maybe there's minimal interest because he's not a great ballplayer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Realistically if he was signing dirt cheap I'm fairly confident we could flip him and easily get returning value of the 3rd round pick we give up. edit: I'm 100% confident tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsOnMintSt Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 I like the signing if it is at 5 years. He would fill multiple needs, as well as be in the lineup during what I would consider to be "prime years" for the White Sox (2020, 2021, 2022). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 11:58 AM) What's the downside? Tying up payroll and losing a draft pick? The horror. The Sox would be a lock to sign Machado. With Moustakas, there is no chance. Whether it is true or not, or he is trying to ride on the coattails of the article on espn.com yesterday is anyone's guess. But there isn't a ton of downside here. Banking on Machado is foolish. There's a better chance the Bulls get Lebron. Donaldson could be great, but he will cost a lot more and be a couple of years older. Moustakas hurt his knee in 2016. It hurt his defense last year, which hurt his overall WAR, but he's a pretty good player with a ton of power and bats LH (Lillian would approve). The market may have made his price come down to the point it makes sense for the White Sox. Of course if you sign him, you have to be ready to compete in 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 12:02 PM) Maybe there's minimal interest because he's not a great ballplayer... How many teams need a 3B? Edit: make that "team expected to compete" Edited January 4, 2018 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) Here is probably everyone's source: http://www.espn.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/...stars-will-sign I wouldn't necessarily believe anything will happen. I still think for him to be in White Sox price range, the Royals would pounce or some other team. Edited January 4, 2018 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 The guy who tweeted this is my friend. It's 100% fabricated, he did it to see if anyone would believe him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 12:08 PM) The guy who tweeted this is my friend. It's 100% fabricated, he did it to see if anyone would believe him If it's on twitter, there are a lot of people who will believe him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 12:59 PM) commence MoustakasTalk MousTalkas. QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 01:08 PM) The guy who tweeted this is my friend. It's 100% fabricated, he did it to see if anyone would believe him Ok, show's over folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 12:03 PM) The horror. The Sox would be a lock to sign Machado. With Moustakas, there is no chance. Whether it is true or not, or he is trying to ride on the coattails of the article on espn.com yesterday is anyone's guess. But there isn't a ton of downside here. Banking on Machado is foolish. There's a better chance the Bulls get Lebron. Donaldson could be great, but he will cost a lot more and be a couple of years older. Moustakas hurt his knee in 2016. It hurt his defense last year, which hurt his overall WAR, but he's a pretty good player with a ton of power and bats LH (Lillian would approve). The market may have made his price come down to the point it makes sense for the White Sox. Of course if you sign him, you have to be ready to compete in 2019. Agreed, banking on Machado is foolish - I've posted that elsewhere as well. But Machado also wants to play SS again so I don't think this rules it out a run at Machado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 12:08 PM) The guy who tweeted this is my friend. It's 100% fabricated, he did it to see if anyone would believe him Your friend is kind of a douche... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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