Dominikk85 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Don't care for the trade either way. No cost except money which the sox have plenty available due to the low payroll but also no real gain. Yeah you could say they need relievers but honestly they are already projected to be a last place team next year, so why not lose 95+ and get another top3 pick (which might happen anyway fangraphs actually projects them as the worst team of the majors) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 06:38 PM) The fact that no team was willing to take Jake Peter in the rule 5 kind of makes you think losing him isn't going to bite you on the ass one day. The Dodgers, the team known for having endless resources and scouting and depth, clearly wanted him, which at least tells me they'll give him a shot. Rule 5 is riskier since you're stuck with him taking up a roster spot- and given how much depth they have, it would be hard for them to afford having an unproven guy taking up a spot all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Fantastic, fantastic trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 06:38 PM) Friedman and Hahn have a pretty good working relationship. Guessing dodgers needed Team to take salary to work out, called one Sox Hahn should leverage that relationship to raid their farm by taking on some or all (depending on what else is coming back) of the Kemp deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 06:40 PM) The Dodgers, the team known for having endless resources and scouting and depth, clearly wanted him, which at least tells me they'll give him a shot. Rule 5 is riskier since you're stuck with him taking up a roster spot- and given how much depth they have, it would be hard for them to afford having an unproven guy taking up a spot all year. for the Dodgers, no he wouldn't stick all year. But there are several other teams if he was moderately thought of, could have at least taken a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 06:38 PM) Friedman and Hahn have a pretty good working relationship. Guessing dodgers needed Team to take salary to work out, called one Sox That is exactly how I see it. They basically got a free reliever for taking on Soria to make the Dodgers end of things work. Peter is a nothing in this trade as the Sox were willing to let him go for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Sox getting $4 million in total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Soria is a horrific baseball pitcher, but he won't be with the Sox when they contend so no biggie. It will be annoying to see him pitch next season, however, on the South Side. Royals fans are dancing in the streets getting rid of Soria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 06:45 PM) Soria is a horrific baseball pitcher, but he won't be with the Sox when they contend so no biggie. It will be annoying to see him pitch next season, however, on the South Side. Royals fans are dancing in the streets getting rid of Soria. Want to bet the house? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 5, 2018 -> 01:46 AM) Want to bet the house? Definitely. Surely you are aware of how rotten Soria is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 5, 2018 -> 01:45 AM) Soria is a horrific baseball pitcher, but he won't be with the Sox when they contend so no biggie. It will be annoying to see him pitch next season, however, on the South Side. Royals fans are dancing in the streets getting rid of Soria. Significantly better than Kelvin Herrera last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 06:45 PM) Soria is a horrific baseball pitcher, but he won't be with the Sox when they contend so no biggie. It will be annoying to see him pitch next season, however, on the South Side. Royals fans are dancing in the streets getting rid of Soria. I tend to agree with you. I thin he is pretty much done. He kept the ball in the park last year, but if he reverts to his 2016 form, it will be souvenir time in the bleachers. But worth the flier getting the lefty. Edited January 5, 2018 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 07:49 PM) I tend to agree with you. I thin he is pretty much done. He kept the ball in the park last year, but if he reverts to his 2016 form, it will be souvenir time in the bleachers. But worth the flier getting the lefty. if he reverts to his 2016 form, then it improves our draft pick. At the very least, this gets us out of the "no one in the bullpen knows who will get the ball in the 9th" situation we were in after the trades last year, and if someone else earns the position away from him, great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) I am not blasting the trade as it's not contention time yet, but some Tweets from Royals fans. ... Thank god I no longer have to exchange Ffffff Soria texts with my brother while i watch him piss away the lead! Well we just now sent Soria to the South Side of Chicago!! Rejoice!!! SORIA IS GONE FROM THE ROYALS!!!!!! KC ITS TIME TO THROW A PARADE!!! Soria has a truckload of blown saves the last two years. Shipping him to someone that you play 19 times may be worth a few wins. He’s gone!! No more mad Soria tweets ever again!! Best news in a long time!!! Yes the fans here despise Soria. The only hope is Coop might fix him. Coop is that good. If Coop can't fix him he's perfect for those fans who want to make sure we blow leads we might have late in the game to get a better draft pick. Edited January 5, 2018 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Didn't the Sox not protect Peter in Rule 5? Pretty decent return for a player they were willing to lose for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 07:58 PM) Didn't the Sox not protect Peter in Rule 5? Pretty decent return for a player they were willing to lose for nothing. You are correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Yeah, if we missed on Peter then 28 other teams did as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 If anyone can get the most out of current day Joakim Soria, it is Don Cooper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 08:01 PM) Yeah, if we missed on Peter then 28 other teams did as well. Even if we did, there's no playing time for him in our current infield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 06:45 PM) Soria is a horrific baseball pitcher, but he won't be with the Sox when they contend so no biggie. It will be annoying to see him pitch next season, however, on the South Side. Royals fans are dancing in the streets getting rid of Soria. Send us a selfie and prove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Irrationally confident Soria will be okay after the work with Clippard last year. If not, no big deal. Minaya-Jones-Soria is respectable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I don't get the pessimism with Soria. He's had one bad year ever and that year was hardly a total s***show by White Sox standards. We're going to get something much nicer than Jake Peter in return for him at the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Both of these guys have 2 years max control, so they both need to be moved in July really (although they could wait a year). But Peter was going to wither on the vine in Chicago, and there is room for these pitchers to play and be moved for younger prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 5, 2018 -> 01:09 AM) I don't get the pessimism with Soria. He's had one bad year ever and that year was hardly a total s***show by White Sox standards. We're going to get something much nicer than Jake Peter in return for him at the deadline. The pessimism is well founded. he's that bad. Seriously, he may have made the decision for me to not get mlb.com this year. I'll go crazy watching him pitch. Perfect though, again, for those who want one more tank season. He's perfect cause nobody can accuse the Sox of tanking cause he has a name and makes a good buck. But he will get the tank job done. I'm not lying when I say Royals fans are rejoicing. It's better for them than New Year's Rockin Eve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Other than his contract...and the fact that he was terrible for the Royals in key late inning/high leverage situations last year. He could actually be fine away from KC, and with almost zero pressure on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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