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President Not Racist Genius Brains

 

A career intelligence analyst who is an expert in hostage policy stood before President Donald Trump in the Oval Office last fall to brief him on the impending release of a family long held in Pakistan under uncertain circumstances.

 

It was her first time meeting the president, and when she was done briefing, he had a question for her.

 

"Where are you from?" the president asked, according to two officials with direct knowledge of the exchange.

 

New York, she replied.

 

Trump was unsatisfied and asked again, the officials said. Referring to the president's hometown, she offered that she, too, was from Manhattan. But that's not what the president was after.

 

He wanted to know where "your people" are from, according to the officials, who spoke under condition of anonymity due to the nature of the internal discussions.

 

After the analyst revealed that her parents are Korean, Trump turned to an adviser in the room and seemed to suggest her ethnicity should determine her career path, asking why the "pretty Korean lady" isn't negotiating with North Korea on his administration's behalf, the officials said.

 

At a March meeting with members of the Congressional Black Caucus, Trump asked the elected officials if they knew just one member of his incoming cabinet -- Ben Carson -- according to two people in the room.

 

Carson, the only black member of Trump's Cabinet, had never served in Congress and spent his career as a surgeon. None of the lawmakers knew Carson, and Trump found that surprising, the attendees said.

 

During that same meeting, a member relayed to Trump that potential welfare cuts would harm her constituents, "not all of whom are black." The president replied, "Really? Then what are they?"

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oh and he paid a porn star hush money a month before the election

 

A lawyer for President Donald Trump arranged a $130,000 payment to a former adult-film star a month before the 2016 election as part of an agreement that precluded her from publicly discussing an alleged sexual encounter with Mr. Trump, according to people familiar with the matter.

 

Michael Cohen, who spent nearly a decade as a top attorney at the Trump Organization, arranged payment to the woman, Stephanie Clifford, in October 2016 after her lawyer negotiated the nondisclosure agreement with Mr. Cohen, these people said.

 

Ms. Clifford, whose stage name is Stormy Daniels, has privately alleged the encounter with Mr. Trump took place after they met at a July 2006 celebrity golf tournament in Lake Tahoe, these people said. Mr. Trump married Melania Trump in 2005.

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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jan 12, 2018 -> 03:07 PM)
His followers will bend into all sorts of contorted positions to defend this. Many of them "Evangelicals" who preach family values.

 

There is a good porn joke in this post somewhere

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-ambassador-pan...-163051490.html

US Ambassador to Panama resigns

 

https://www.trumphotels.com/panama Was $315 per night, but you can get a discounted rate of only $163 if you say Steve Bannon sucks balls three times when you check in.

 

 

 

 

https://nypost.com/2018/01/12/trump-team-pa...tal-affair/amp/

 

Guess he likes the Ivanka look...all plastic. Yikes.

 

This will only draw praise from his base, because, let’s face it, even evangelicals fantasize about doing it with a porn star. Only surprise here is it wasn’t Jenna Jameson, Traci Lords, Sasha Grey or Marilyn Chambers, since Trump is all about dating the most famous, like his pursuit of Lady Diana.

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First stable genius, consensual vs. consequential, on quite a roll...now we get, “not a racist, in a traditional sense (just uninformed and ignorant)” from a member of the MLK extended family

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-not-racist...-205320873.html

Trump, Not Racist in a (Bad) Traditional Sense?

 

 

Paul Ryan continues to play both sides of the fence for when he runs for president

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/paul-ryan-call...-and-unhelpful/

 

Speaker Paul Ryan on Friday afternoon broke his silence and condemned President Trump's remark about "sh*thole countries" from a day earlier.

 

The Wisconsin Republican was asked about the remark during a Q&A event at the University of Wisconsin in Milwaukee. He said that the first thing that came to mind is it's "very unfortunate" and "unhelpful."

 

"I thought about my own family," he said, describing his Irish immigrant relatives who came to the U.S. on what he said were called "coffin ships" and began working the railroads. Eventually, he said, they opened a farm in Wisconsin after they raised enough money.

 

"It's a beautiful story of America," he said. "I see this as a thing to celebrate and I think it's a big part of our strength."

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Too bad this guy can’t run.

Ujiri, GM of the Raptors, goes after Trump.

 

 

”This summer, I went to Kigali and Nairobi and Lagos, and I went to Kampala and Abidjan and Dakar and Johannesburg, and I saw great cities and great people," Ujiri told ESPN on Friday. "And I went to visit the refugee camp in Dadaab, and I met good people and good families with plenty of hope. If those places are being referred to as s***holes, go visit those places, and go meet those people."

 

"I don't think it's fair, and I don't think it's what inspiring leadership can be. What sense of hope are we giving people if you are calling where they live -- and where they're from -- a s***hole?

 

"I've spent a lot of time in the United States and Canada and I am grateful for the opportunities that I've been given by people, and the game of basketball, and the NBA. As leaders, I think we have to give people in many places a chance to have success, not continue to put those people down.

 

"We have to inspire people and give them a sense of hope. We need to bring people along, not ridicule and tear them down. This cannot be the message that we accept from the leader of the free world.

 

"... Just because someone lives in a hut, that doesn't mean that isn't a good person, that that person can't do better, that person isn't capable of being great. And just because it's a hut -- whatever that means -- doesn't mean it's not a home. God doesn't put anyone someplace permanently. I am a living testimony to that. If I grew up in a s***hole, I am proud of my s***hole.”

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QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 13, 2018 -> 03:30 AM)
There are republican posters here?

I'm still Republican though as you all know I've not voted one for President in quite a while.

And I'm a huge Jimmy Carter fan.

I think Trump's comments usually suck. However did he really say this or not?? I want proof.

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Trump reportedly had another Playboy centerfold at the same time who was paid $150k for her story by the National Enquirer...but that story was buried by Trump’s good friend who owns that rag paper.

 

Rex Tillerson was scheduled to give a speech on the “Value of Respect” the morning after Trump’s s***hole comments went out.

 

The White House doctor who gave Trump his physical had his name misspelled by someone in the comms department who put out a glowing p.r. statement about Trump’s health, purportedly directly quoting the doctor...which couldn’t possibly have come from him.

 

John Kelly had to take over Trump’s Twitter feed and send out a second message trying to clean up the FISA confusion when the President came out against his own position.

 

 

White House struggles with muting function for 22 minutes on Iran conference call with reporters...the best of all.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/white-hous...with-reporters/

 

It actually started with a man talking in Mandarin about chicken.

 

"This White House can't even run a f*cking conference call," a reporter on an unmuted phone line angrily exclaimed to the entire call. "They don't know how to mute their line."

 

"It's the illegitimate media that doesn't know how to conduct themselves. They can't mute their f*cking phones," an unidentified official said. "Mute your phones."

 

Another White House official repeatedly attempted to quiet the noisy line "so the people in charge" could talk.

 

"I think if everyone had half a brain and common sense and muted their phones, this wouldn't be a problem," she yelled in an apparent fit of frustration.

 

"Hello? Hello?," one reporter interjected, some 15 minutes after the slated start of the call. "Has the call started?"

 

"This is Kim Jong Un calling for Donald Trump," another reporter joked as tensions flared.

 

 

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WSJ: National Enquirer Shielded Donald Trump From Playboy Model’s Affair Allegation

Tabloid owner American Media agreed to pay $150,000 for story from Karen MacDougal, 1998 Playmate of the Year, but hasn’t published her account

https://www.wsj.com/articles/national-enqui...tion-1478309380

 

 

 

Rich Russians Are Traveling to Trump's American Properties to Give Birth and Get Dual Citizenship for Their Babies

Oddly, there's been not a peep from the right.

https://www.alternet.org/russians-are-trave...ip-their-babies

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 12, 2018 -> 11:22 PM)
I'm still Republican though as you all know I've not voted one for President in quite a while.

And I'm a huge Jimmy Carter fan.

I think Trump's comments usually suck. However did he really say this or not?? I want proof.

How about 2 Senators one dem and one GOP confirmed?

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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 13, 2018 -> 07:37 AM)
That post regularly anymore? Hard to think of any. Admitting to the R word in today's world can cost you your livelihood.

 

That’s quite distinct from the Silicon Valley case.

 

Where has anyone ever lost their job simply for admitting to simply being a Republican? That would be the headline chyron on Fox, Breitbart, Alex Jones and James O’Keefe’s twitter feed for an unending 24 hour loop.

 

 

Three interesting facts:

Only 1/4 of 1% of diversity visa lottery applicants are accepted. 18 countries cannot apply. 50,000 per year max. It’s not the worst of the worst being drawn randomly from a bingo ball machine, as Trump has described it.

 

Trump’s own mother came to the US through chain migration from Scotland. She technically would have been classified as an unskilled domestic worker. Hardly the head of a Norwegian think tank.

 

Emigration from Norway to the U.S. hit its peak in 1882 when almost 29,000 mostly poor Norwegians crossed the Atlantic. In 2016, however, only 1,114 Norwegians moved to the U.S., while 1,603 Americans moved to Norway.

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The Daily Stormer, one of the world’s largest neo-Nazi websites, praised Donald Trump for referring to Haiti, El Salvador and several African countries as “s***holes,” saying it showed that the President aligned with them on race and immigration.

 

“[Trump’s comments are] encouraging and refreshing,” wrote Andrew Anglin, the neo-Nazi editor of the Daily Stormer. “It indicates Trump is more or less on the same page as us with regards to race and immigration…[it] is a huge leap from where the rest of the entirety of the political system in this country is at.”

 

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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 13, 2018 -> 07:37 AM)
That post regularly anymore? Hard to think of any. Admitting to the R word in today's world can cost you your livelihood.

I’ve voted republican many times and picked the republican primary instead of the Democrat. I consider myself right on most economic issues. So I disagree. What’s going on in the governement right now isn’t conservative or republican in the classic sense. This is corruption and far far right wing stuff which is forcing many right to right center people to try and disassociate from that bulls***.

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Because the right doesn’t actually actually want to have substantive policy decisions about what’s best for the majority of Americans, including independents.

 

What non social-issue/identity politics discussions are held...well, very clearly, the ObamaCare and tax issues drew lots of interesting discussions from different viewpoints. Or net neutrality. Marijuana laws. Prison reform.

 

The problem is there’s simply no overarching strategic political vision or military agenda from this administration. It’s just flying by the seat of its pants. That’s going to limit the discussion, because not much has been accomplished that isn’t 100% partisan, meant to piss off the Left or undo everything Obama ever put into place. Trump’s main goal each morning is to be the person most talked about in the country and the world, no matter the reason.

 

Yet surely, there has to be compromise at some point or the government will stop running this Friday...at least one would hope, until the s***hole comments came out, leaving both sides in an impossible position. Anyone compromising is a sell out and should be primaried, right? Pelosi voted for FISA authorization, get rid of her, too. Feinstein’s not progressive enough...she is too moderate in her old age. ETC.

 

While the majority of Republicans are not racists, they’re certainly making themselves look very anti-minority, anti-LGBTQ, anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant, anti-women. In this type of charged or polarized environment, real discussion is going to be exceedingly difficult. The likes of Stephen Miller or Huckabee Sanders can’t come across as anything but strident partisans, why should we expect more of the average American to somehow elevate the discourse? Lots of those people who voted for the GOP in 2016 are scared to death that their way of life is changing, shifting under their feet...there’s the fear that women and minorities are taking away their promotions/advancement, that they can’t get ahead, that the good/honest jobs are all gone for good to countries they’ve never heard of and they’re not coming back. The world has changed, and nobody in Washington made a plan for how to help everyone in Flyover Territory. (And still haven’t.)

 

The fact of the matter is that there won’t be a return to real unity on anything with Trump as president...he doesn’t want us to talk about anything but him, after all. When you have Pence or Ryan in there, 75% of the “noise” will be gone, too. People will also gradually become less interested in the day to day politics of the moment, unless it’s something that will existentially threaten to change everyone’s way of life, like ObamaCare in 2010 leading to the rise of the Tea Party. The only difference is the next version of Occupy Wall Street is coming in a wave election against the GOP this year, so it’s natural for many to go into hiding instead of attempting to defend the indefensible.

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Trump is not a Republican. The better question wouldn't be why are Republican posters silent but why are Trump supporters silent. Unless they actually believe what he said to be just.

 

I have to say, if you think it's OK for Trump to say things like that, you may just be clueless about politics.

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/cnn-guest-called...-232017263.html

 

Let’s try this one.

 

America, whether we like it or not will be majority minority by 2065...including 24% Hispanic and 14% Asian.

In the eyes of the Trump administration, Asians are the only “good” immigrants (ignoring NYC poverty statistics).

 

In the minds of conservatives, Asians are taking away jobs from Americans in IT, VR, AR, AI and coding. The counterargument, Asians are filling a huge void that US students can’t...and are willing to work twice as hard for 20-30% lower wages.

 

Asians also feel discriminated (and unprotected) against in America. For example, the pending lawsuit against Harvard, where Asians basically have to score 30-40 points higher on the SAT to be treated as equal to white applicants.

 

If America is the land of opportunity still, we can’t block immigration from groups that will demonstrably improve our country economically...or should we be investing all our efforts into improving the K-12 education system, community colleges, universal free education or at least heavily subsidized by the government?

 

Let’s keep in mind, many Asian international students are subsidizing lower tuition costs for all Americans and keeping a number of universities from becoming insolvent. They’re driving competition, innovation and productivity by their presence. Otoh, many of those same students are going to return to China, Singapore or India and make our global competitors even stronger if we don’t provide them enough incentive to stay and contribute.

 

Is it fair to distinguish now between immigrants from different regions of the world when we never did so before...especially when you think about all the European immigration from 1870-1920? Weren’t Poles, Czechs, Italians and Irish the s***holes of the past?

 

 

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QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 09:51 AM)
https://t.co/3goQfjM7vC

 

Country’s top employer raises minimum wage and gives bonuses as a result of GOP tax plan.

Country's top employer quietly announced on Friday they would lay off 3500 "Co-managers" who will be replaced by "assistant manager positions" at lower pay. The laid off co-managers can apply for those positions but it is not guaranteed, and even if they get them it's a pay cut.

 

Clearly these paycuts and layoffs are also a result of the tax cuts, that is one thing we can both agree upon. These tax cuts dramatically hurt those lives and it's 100% the fault of the GOP tax cuts.

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