**President Trump 2018 Thread**

[Dick Allen]

Killing journalists is something Trump isn't opposed. 

[StrangeSox]

3 hours ago, GoSox05 said:

This is what I expected, but it's still disgusting.  Also, this is why MBS did this, cause he knows we aren't going to do anything to him.

History is not going to look kindly on us or the Saudis with regards to Yemen.  It's genocide.

Yeah, and it stretches back decades before Trump. He's just very vocal about not giving a shit about it.

[StrangeSox]

Seems like the Mueller investigation is still focused on potential collusion, not just obstruction.

 

[Balta1701]

Also the Saudis are paying a lot of money to stay at his hotel properties. 

[StrangeSox]

1 minute ago, Balta1701 said:

Also the Saudis are paying a lot of money to stay at his hotel properties. 

 

[Dick Allen]

Someone should tell hm Obama wouldn’t do anything about it either.

[Balta1701]

Kanye West brought an unsecured cell phone into the oval office and unlocked it on television today. The passcode was straight 0's. 

[caulfield12]

Trump is the best president because he's had the most interesting drop-bys:

Kid Rock

Kim Kardashian

Steve Harvey

Kanye West

Ted Nugent

Sarah Palin

(No James Woods or Lee Greenwood as of yet)

 

“[Kanye’s] intentions were good, but he’s clearly being played by Trump, who was outright laughing at him at one point. It’s just sad,” the unnamed insider said. “The problem is, there’s no telling Kanye how to act, and there’s no advising him to be calm or cool. He’s going to launch into whatever he wants, and Kim has to be there to pick up the pieces afterwards.”

Kanye West had become one of the biggest celebrity backers of Donald Trump — along with football legend Jim Brown who was also at the meeting on Thursday — though his support of the president has generated some major controversy. Earlier this year, after expressing his admiration for Trump, Kanye got himself into some trouble after claiming that black people who lived in slavery chose to do so.

[BigHurt3515]

Are good things allowed here too?

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/trumps-list-289-accomplishments-in-just-20-months-relentless-promise-keeping

[caulfield12]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/13/politics/white-house-ninth-circuit-judges/index.html

Trump declares war on 9th District...courts become increasingly politicized.

 

Trump said he was not trying to push China into an economic depression. 

"No, no, although they're down 32% in four months, which is 1929," the President said. He added, "I don't want that. ... I want them to negotiate a fair deal with us. I want them to open their markets like ... our markets are open."

 

My note:  Trump’s basically an idiot.  Only 8-10% of Chinese are invested in the markets here, and, even then, it’s mostly government ownership as opposed to individuals.  The stock markets are not perceived as a key economic indicator like in the US.

Edited October 15, 2018 by caulfield12

[NorthSideSox72]

On 10/12/2018 at 11:56 PM, BigHurt3515 said:

Are good things allowed here too?

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/trumps-list-289-accomplishments-in-just-20-months-relentless-promise-keeping

Interestingly, most of those items are not promises kept - they are data points. For example, the economic gains (which are very substantial no doubt, and very real) are all but one not related to any promise Trump made. The one thing he did promise was big growth by GDP. He was saying he wanted 4-5% sustained. So far he's hit that in one quarter, so in that snapshot he succeeded. The rest is a laundry list of numbers - good numbers but not numbers he ever discussed specifically as campaign issues (and some of which he probably has zero clue are even a thing).

The economy is roaring. Anyone denying this deserves the same level of derision people get for pretending the planet isn't warming. One can argue who exactly is responsible for that growth to which extent (much like Global Warming), and certainly there are signs it may be peaking right now with some warning signs becoming prominent. But for now, the economy has reached the overall goal in terms of overall GDP growth or at least gotten close to it (his numbers were variable depending on the week or month of the campaign).

 

[Balta1701]

36 minutes ago, NorthSideSox72 said:

Interestingly, most of those items are not promises kept - they are data points. For example, the economic gains (which are very substantial no doubt, and very real) are all but one not related to any promise Trump made. The one thing he did promise was big growth by GDP. He was saying he wanted 4-5% sustained. So far he's hit that in one quarter, so in that snapshot he succeeded. The rest is a laundry list of numbers - good numbers but not numbers he ever discussed specifically as campaign issues (and some of which he probably has zero clue are even a thing).

The economy is roaring. Anyone denying this deserves the same level of derision people get for pretending the planet isn't warming. One can argue who exactly is responsible for that growth to which extent (much like Global Warming), and certainly there are signs it may be peaking right now with some warning signs becoming prominent. But for now, the economy has reached the overall goal in terms of overall GDP growth or at least gotten close to it (his numbers were variable depending on the week or month of the campaign).

 

You can also argue that 7 is a higher number than 10, but that doesn't mean that it's worth listening to. 

[Balta1701]

We're going with "Rogue killers" as the lie that we'll use to declare it was ok that Saudi Arabia murdered that guy.

 

[StrangeSox]

7 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

We're going with "Rogue killers" as the lie that we'll use to declare it was ok that Saudi Arabia murdered that guy.

 

 

Look, Putin denied interfering in our election. MSB denied murdering Khashoggi. What else can you do but believe them??? It must have been a rogue team of terrorists that broke into the Saudi Consulate, murdered Khashoggi, and then dismembered and removed his body all without Saudi officials noticing. It's the explanation that makes the most sense, really.

 

 

edit: Maybe they can get Ed Whelan to fire up the Zillow machine to find the real culprit

 

Edited October 15, 2018 by StrangeSox

[GoSox05]

I doubt a King would not tell the truth about something like this. 

 

[caulfield12]

The never-sleeping folk at the not-yet-failed New York Times on the Trump tax beat are at it again, this time with a lengthy expose on how Jared Kushner, the President's son-in-law, likely paid no taxes from 2009 until 2016, at least. 

 

This comes on the heels of the reporting, published less than two weeks ago, on how Fred Trump, Donald's father, engaged in aggressive tax planning with his son starting when Donald was as young as 3. It continued over decades, to avoid more than $400 million in taxes, per the Times' analysis. And those two reports followed the bombshell reporting from October 2016 -- to which Trump was responding in the tweet above -- that Trump had used losses, which we later learned came from other people's money, to avoid paying any tax on almost $1 billion in income for up to two decades. 

 

The most recent piece on Jared's non-taxpaying is once again lengthy and detailed, turning on tax-law intricacies such as depreciation deductions, the income tax treatment of debt, Section 1031 "like kind" exchanges, and more. The New York Times article leaves little doubt that Jared's tax-saving techniques were legal. Cue up the band to sing odes to Jared's genius, which is precisely what Rudy Guiliani said of Donald two years ago, after the first Times story broke: "The man is a genius, he knows how to operate the tax code for the benefit of the people he is serving." 

 

Now we know: Taxpayers helped enable Trump's fortune

But the legality of Jared's tax planning is not a defense of Trump. It is a damnation of him.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/15/opinions/trump-kushner-taxes-paid-by-others-mccaffery/index.html

[Jerksticks]

Haha and these idiots think we should raise income taxes on the “rich”.  

[StrangeSox]

how is that an argument against increased taxation and tax enforcement against the wealthy?

[caulfield12]

More Trump hocus-pocus, up is down, down is up...and he’s somehow actually fighting for “us” when he’s really doing exactly the opposite.

Maybe those lower middle class / lacking college degree Trump voters are simply expressing admiration for how cleverly billionaires can “legally” (right up to the borderline) work the system to pay less in taxes than Warren Buffett’s secretary...?

[BigSqwert]

WTF?!?

 

Must everything that comes out of his mouth sound so rapey?  

Also, there is absolutely no scenario where he donates to her charity.  They could televise a live event where he draws her blood, tests for it in a lab, and even has a time machine that goes back to prove that an ancestor of hers is Indigenous and he'll add a few more after-the-fact stipulations that would see no end.  Why anyone would play along with this career con-artist is beyond me.

[pettie4sox]

18 hours ago, BigSqwert said:

WTF?!?

 

Must everything that comes out of his mouth sound so rapey?  

Also, there is absolutely no scenario where he donates to her charity.  They could televise a live event where he draws her blood, tests for it in a lab, and even has a time machine that goes back to prove that an ancestor of hers is Indigenous and he'll add a few more after-the-fact stipulations that would see no end.  Why anyone would play along with this career con-artist is beyond me.

Trump:  Master of moving the goalposts.  I can't wait until he is gone and then we can listen to bmw of sad trumpers.  That will be a glorious day indeed.

[StrangeSox]