RockRaines Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 QUOTE (New Era on South Side @ Jan 18, 2018 -> 10:53 PM) Yes - Sanders, McConnell, Pelosi, Hatch and a few others that have been there for years. I would be fine with term limits in Illinois and on the federal level, there shouldn’t be career politicians. New, fresh voices are needed, which is why I am hoping Harris, Gillibrand or Cuban can get rid of Trump in 2020 (or maybe Biden). I’m even welcoming the thought of Romney taking over Hatch’s seat in 2018 since he will be a critic of Trump and not be a yes man like others are being. Oh god, Illinois. The f***ing Madigan family needs to go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) "I have joined the political arena so that the powerful can no longer beat up on people that cannot defend themselves. Nobody knows the system better than me, which is why I alone can fix it," DJT doing a swell job. Edited January 19, 2018 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) This weekend, Pence leaving for the Middle East...Trump back to Mar A Lago for a $100,000 a couple fundraiser marking the anniversary of his administration. First real crisis of the admin and both President and VP being out of Washington is going to look pretty bad. Would be first shutdown in US history when executive and both legislative bodies were controlled by the same party. Also, another Women’s March on Washington marking the one-year anniversary. The National Parks System under Zinke has no idea how to keep their parks open without Rangers...might have wanted to come up with a contingency plan before Friday at such a busy time for visitors. Edited January 19, 2018 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) The trade deficit in 2017 under Donald Trump, worse than the last four years under Barack Obama. 3.2% increas, especially rising negatively the last two months. Trump was going to be the master of trade deals and economics, bring back jobs to America and slow the growth of foreign exports into the US. Fail. Not winning bigly. https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/balance-of-trade Btw, according to a CBS poll, 87% want to allow the Dreamers to stay in America. The Federal budget deficit, worse in 2017 than 2016 under Obama. The S&P under Trump in 2017, only up 19%, far less than that number under Obama in 2009. Edited January 19, 2018 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Humanitarian groups left water containers to prevent migrants from dying. ICE is vandalizing them https://t.co/QFxBBBHVQL This is absolutely disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 19, 2018 -> 07:49 AM) Humanitarian groups left water containers to prevent migrants from dying. ICE is vandalizing them https://t.co/QFxBBBHVQL This is absolutely disgusting. They need to go. ICE is trash under someone like Obama. Under someone like Trump they are a nightmare. Imagine them under someone like Tom Cotton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jan 19, 2018 -> 08:58 AM) They need to go. ICE is trash under someone like Obama. Under someone like Trump they are a nightmare. Imagine them under someone like Tom Cotton. I am having nightmares. Thank you, jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Guys, guys guys. Was driving to get a haircut and listened to Rush. Hmmm, he said the economy is thriving under Trump. Said stock market is doing amazing. Said everything Trump is doing is working. Says Democrats are causing a ruckus over the shutdown to deflect attention from Trump successful economy. Before you deem me some Rush fanatic, folks, I listened for a grand total of 3 minutes before commercials hit and that was it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 19, 2018 -> 11:48 AM) Guys, guys guys. Was driving to get a haircut and listened to Rush. Hmmm, he said the economy is thriving under Trump. Said stock market is doing amazing. Said everything Trump is doing is working. Says Democrats are causing a ruckus over the shutdown to deflect attention from Trump successful economy. Before you deem me some Rush fanatic, folks, I listened for a grand total of 3 minutes before commercials hit and that was it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinilaw08 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 19, 2018 -> 11:48 AM) Guys, guys guys. Was driving to get a haircut and listened to Rush. Hmmm, he said the economy is thriving under Trump. Said stock market is doing amazing. Said everything Trump is doing is working. Says Democrats are causing a ruckus over the shutdown to deflect attention from Trump successful economy. Before you deem me some Rush fanatic, folks, I listened for a grand total of 3 minutes before commercials hit and that was it. I'm hitting my head against a wall here, but Greg - you understand that Rush is an entertainer and nothing more, right? He's not a policy expert, he's a guy with a radio show that caters to his Conservative base. He's simply not a reliable source of information, so stop pretending like he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 19, 2018 -> 11:48 AM) Guys, guys guys. Was driving to get a haircut and listened to Rush. Hmmm, he said the economy is thriving under Trump. Said stock market is doing amazing. Said everything Trump is doing is working. Says Democrats are causing a ruckus over the shutdown to deflect attention from Trump successful economy. Before you deem me some Rush fanatic, folks, I listened for a grand total of 3 minutes before commercials hit and that was it. Oh no baby, what is you doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Evangelicals praising trump is so hypocritical it’s hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) 771 coal mining jobs added in Trump's first year. What an impact he made. He's doing tremendously well. Edited January 19, 2018 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 19, 2018 -> 09:48 AM) Guys, guys guys. Was driving to get a haircut and listened to Rush. Hmmm, he said the economy is thriving under Trump. Said stock market is doing amazing. Said everything Trump is doing is working. Says Democrats are causing a ruckus over the shutdown to deflect attention from Trump successful economy. Before you deem me some Rush fanatic, folks, I listened for a grand total of 3 minutes before commercials hit and that was it. You do realize that there is literally nothing Trump could do or say that would cause Rush to criticize him. We could learn that Trump is a serial killer, a child molester, an arsonist, etc. and Rush would find a reason to praise him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 So according to In Touch magazine, Stormy Daniels passed a lie detector when she talked about her affair that now has never happened with Trump back in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 19, 2018 -> 10:58 AM) So according to In Touch magazine, Stormy Daniels passed a lie detector when she talked about her affair that now has never happened with Trump back in 2011. Are you saying that the guy who averages about 10 lies per day might not be telling us the truth about this situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 19, 2018 -> 11:56 AM) The House Intelligence Committee, the group that had their Twitter suspended yesterday, is said to be possessing the memo that would expose corruption that would lead to the end of careers for lifer politicians. It's a memo written by Devin Nunes, who had already had to partially recuse himself (but didn't really) and has been carrying water for Trump from day 1. He's also the guy who made up the "Susan Rice unmasking!" stuff that turned out to be bs. So there's pretty good reason to be skeptical. Some reporters have talked to sources who have seen the memo, and they did not describe it in flattering terms. That hashtag is also being promoted heavily by Russian Twitter bots, for whatever that's worth. It's worth mentioning that the guys in Congress making a huge deal about this could release the memo themselves of they wanted to. Glen Greenwald, whom I know you've respected in the past, had been harshly critical of them. https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/95438...46%7Ctwterm%5E3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 The Republican DACA bill that Ryan agreed to bring up for a vote later in order to get the Hfc (tea party) votes last night would criminalize DACA recipients who don't make enough money, criminalizes any undocumented immigrants, and cuts legal immigration by 25%. https://t.co/8CzAT7Ej0e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 19, 2018 -> 12:58 PM) So according to In Touch magazine, Stormy Daniels passed a lie detector when she talked about her affair that now has never happened with Trump back in 2011. A porno actress passed a lie detector test? I can't imagine she has ever faked anything in her life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) Why isn’t the Stormy Daniels story a bigger deal? http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/19/politics/sto...ysis/index.html National Enquirer Shielded Donald Trump From Playboy Model’s Affair Allegation Tabloid owner American Media agreed to pay $150,000 for story from 1998 Playmate of the Year, but hasn’t published her account Don’t we trust the PMOY a little bit more? https://www.wsj.com/articles/national-enqui...tion-1478309380 Notice the very conservative WSJ was the source for both these stories, originally Edited January 19, 2018 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 19, 2018 -> 09:30 PM) Why isn’t the Stormy Daniels story a bigger deal? http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/19/politics/sto...ysis/index.html National Enquirer Shielded Donald Trump From Playboy Model’s Affair Allegation Tabloid owner American Media agreed to pay $150,000 for story from 1998 Playmate of the Year, but hasn’t published her account Don’t we trust the PMOY a little bit more? https://www.wsj.com/articles/national-enqui...tion-1478309380 Notice the very conservative WSJ was the source for both these stories, originally I was thinking the same thing. This is huge as Trump would say. I mean he was married and if he had affair with a porn star, that's kinda crazy. I would think wife would leave him immediately at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 19, 2018 -> 01:22 PM) A porno actress passed a lie detector test? I can't imagine she has ever faked anything in her life. Faking an orgasm and beating a lie detector test are not even in the same ballpark. I find it odd how often you give Trump the benefit of the doubt. Someone who has consistently proven how much full of s*** he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 19, 2018 -> 01:54 PM) It's a memo written by Devin Nunes, who had already had to partially recuse himself (but didn't really) and has been carrying water for Trump from day 1. He's also the guy who made up the "Susan Rice unmasking!" stuff that turned out to be bs. So there's pretty good reason to be skeptical. Some reporters have talked to sources who have seen the memo, and they did not describe it in flattering terms. That hashtag is also being promoted heavily by Russian Twitter bots, for whatever that's worth. It's worth mentioning that the guys in Congress making a huge deal about this could release the memo themselves of they wanted to. Glen Greenwald, whom I know you've respected in the past, had been harshly critical of them. https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/95438...46%7Ctwterm%5E3 Russian bots are pushing it like crazy. Usually means distraction from something else. http://www.businessinsider.com/release-the...accounts-2018-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 19, 2018 -> 03:12 PM) http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/13/politics/sus...ials/index.html Susan Rice didn't even deny unmasking. "Some reporters" with "anonymous sources" is about all you need to believe anything. I don't care for your Russian conspiracy theory. You've been very dismissive of Greenwald in the past. Now his opinion matters to you? Interesting. There was no scandal behind the Susan Rice stuff like Nunes was claiming, though. That's one reason you should be skeptical.. I could link the journalists later if you'd like. It's no less than the people insisting that the memo actually means anything have. Ultimately the memo either contains legitimate information or it doesn't, and we won't know for sure unless the Republicans release it (which they can if they want) and their claims are verified. Given who wrote it and his history, I'm going to remain doubtful. Conversely, what have you seen from Nunes in the past that would give you a reason to treat him as a credible source? I don't always agree with Greenwald and think he has bad takes sometimes. I posted him because I know you like him. What do you think about his opinion on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 19, 2018 -> 03:15 PM) https://imgur.com/a/Jb2dP#mwwVMbn Good thing the Russians are pushing Twitter to make this trend...Oh wait... What is this supposed to show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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