StrangeSox Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Ken Dilanian @KenDilanianNBC 9m Sen. Jack Reed just got FBI Director Wray and other intel chiefs to admit that the president has never asked them to focus on or disrupt Russian election meddling. Brooke Baldwin @BrookeBCNN 14m BREAKING -- @kaitlancollins is reporting that just before Rob Porter resigned amid allegations of spouse abuse, the White House was considering PROMOTING him to Deputy Chief of Staff. #CNN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Feb 13, 2018 -> 10:51 AM) America First! 3 Trump properties posted 144 openings for seasonal jobs. Only one went to a US worker. Check where all the DJT Collection is manufactured. Apparently not all the manufacturing jobs are coming back. https://www.trump.com/merchandise/signature-collection/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 QUOTE (Tony @ Feb 13, 2018 -> 09:37 PM) Anyone doubt the Stormy affair now? https://twitter.com/maggienyt/status/963601375501410304 There could be video of him actually f***ing her and then paying her while counting the money dollar by dollar and his base wouldnt believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 So his lawyer paid her off completely without Trump’s knowledge, with his own personal funds (just had $130k lying around)...after the National Inquirer story...but the story is not true? Completely strains credibility. What else is new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 My favorite part of that saga is the obviously fake letter Cohen put out to initially deny the claims that used her stage name instead of her real name. His base doesn't care, and neither do most people. Nothing will cause his "family values" conservative evangelical base to abandon him. Democrats would be much better served focusing on actual issues to motivate their voters rather than Trump's never-ending personal scandals imo. Yeah, in a normal world revelations that the President (or his lawyer) paid hush money shortly before the election to a porn star with whom he had cheated on his new wife who had recently given birth, but this will never stick to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) I wonder why the other accusers weren't paid off for their supposed false claims. The truth is coming out, not that it will matter to anyone who likes R after names. Edited February 14, 2018 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 I wouldn't call Stormy Daniels an "accuser," by all accounts it was a 100% consensual relationship. She hasn't alleged that he mistreated her in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 08:43 AM) My favorite part of that saga is the obviously fake letter Cohen put out to initially deny the claims that used her stage name instead of her real name. His base doesn't care, and neither do most people. Nothing will cause his "family values" conservative evangelical base to abandon him. Democrats would be much better served focusing on actual issues to motivate their voters rather than Trump's never-ending personal scandals imo. Yeah, in a normal world revelations that the President (or his lawyer) paid hush money shortly before the election to a porn star with whom he had cheated on his new wife who had recently given birth, but this will never stick to him. On what? The infrastructure joke? Gutting Medicare, Medicaid and SS? The stock market crashing again? The Porter and Sorensen allegations that the WH continues to bungle? Russian denials? Taking essential food benefits away from the poorest and most mentally unstable at a time when labor markets are already super tight? Nobody cares. Or has the requisite attention span for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 08:43 AM) My favorite part of that saga is the obviously fake letter Cohen put out to initially deny the claims that used her stage name instead of her real name. His base doesn't care, and neither do most people. Nothing will cause his "family values" conservative evangelical base to abandon him. Democrats would be much better served focusing on actual issues to motivate their voters rather than Trump's never-ending personal scandals imo. Yeah, in a normal world revelations that the President (or his lawyer) paid hush money shortly before the election to a porn star with whom he had cheated on his new wife who had recently given birth, but this will never stick to him. On what? The infrastructure joke? Gutting Medicare, Medicaid and SS? The stock market crashing again? The Porter and Sorensen allegations that the WH continues to bungle? Russian denials? Taking essential food benefits away from the poorest and most mentally unstable at a time when labor markets are already super tight? Nobody cares. Or has the requisite attention span for it. But clearly, with a $28 trillion Federal deficit looming...we need, yes, MORE nuclear weapons for Trump to threaten the world with. A recently declassified document shared by nuclear historian Alex Wellerstein gives the verdict that scientists at the Los Alamos laboratory and test site reached in 1945. They found that "it would require only in the neighborhood of 10 to 100 Supers of this type" to put the human race in peril. In 1945, the Los Alamos scientists concluded it would only take between 10 and 100 "Super" bombs to end the world. pic.twitter.com/01I8ypmIP0— Alex Wellerstein (@wellerstein) December 15, 2014 They reached this conclusion at a very early point in the development of nuclear weapons, before highly destructive multi-stage or thermonuclear devices had been built. But the scientists had an idea of the technology's grim potential. "The 'Super' they had in mind was what we would now call a hydrogen bomb," Wellerstein wrote in an email to Business Insider. Edited February 14, 2018 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 On the damage being done to things people actually like and the Democrats' plans to actually help people. So, yeah, those economic things. I think the strong-and-still-going enthusiasm gap we're seeing in special elections is showing that people do care. The "get a load of this idiot" campaign strategy already backfired bigly in 2016, might as well try running on actual good issues and policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 08:47 AM) I wouldn't call Stormy Daniels an "accuser," by all accounts it was a 100% consensual relationship. She hasn't alleged that he mistreated her in any way. Right, but she was coming forward with their affair. She must have had pictures or some other proof where even he realized his denial might not work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 08:54 AM) On the damage being done to things people actually like and the Democrats' plans to actually help people. So, yeah, those economic things. I think the strong-and-still-going enthusiasm gap we're seeing in special elections is showing that people do care. The "get a load of this idiot" campaign strategy already backfired bigly in 2016, might as well try running on actual good issues and policies. The problem is where is the money left with another $7 trillion hole blown in the debt (astonishingly, during a period of economic boom)...to pay for anything most Americans really need? They can’t reverse the corporate tax cuts...so other than cutting defense spending dramatically after increasing it, or raising taxes on the rich, where are the funds going to come from? A National gasoline tax for infrastructure just gets the Dems tarred and feathered as tax and spenders, all evidence to the contrary since Reagan took office. Edited February 14, 2018 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Cohen is trying to take the fall here not because of the affair, but rather because it was noticed that campaign funds were used for the payoff, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 To make this six-figure payment, Cohen set up an LLC in Delaware, a state famous for its lack of corporate transparency. He says he neither told Trump nor anyone else in the Trump Organization he was making the payment. And he was not paid back in any way, shape or form. "Just because something isn't true doesn't mean that it can't cause you harm or damage," Cohen said in a statement issued Tuesday night. "I will always protect Mr. Trump." That's the story Cohen told The New York Times' Maggie Haberman on Tuesday night. By any standard of logic, it's a very, very hard one to swallow. Don't overthink it. Cohen -- out of the goodness of his heart!!!! -- dropped a six-figure payment to a porn star even though he didn't believe her allegations that she and the President had an affair after the birth of his son Barron? I mean, come on. People don't do that. I don't care how rich Cohen is. Why would he spent $130,000 to make Daniels go away -- and not tell her story -- if her story was fundamentally without merit? cnn.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 09:14 AM) Cohen is trying to take the fall here not because of the affair, but rather because it was noticed that campaign funds were used for the payoff, no? Maybe? But it also possibly puts Cohen's own law license in jeopardy for ethical violations. The Trump people generate legal conundrums like hypothetical questions on a law school exam written by a professor with increasingly grave emotional problems— FruitOfThePoisonedHat (@Popehat) February 14, 2018 “can you . . . Can you ... can you use your OWN MONEY to pay off a porn star not to talk about your client who is...is...RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT? Oh. Oh. I hurt and the liquor isn’t making it stop any more.”— FruitOfThePoisonedHat (@Popehat) February 14, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 08:49 AM) On what? The infrastructure joke? Gutting Medicare, Medicaid and SS? The stock market crashing again? The Porter and Sorensen allegations that the WH continues to bungle? Russian denials? Taking essential food benefits away from the poorest and most mentally unstable at a time when labor markets are already super tight? Nobody cares. Or has the requisite attention span for it. He directly lies on average 3 times a day. HIs base doesnt give two s***s. They turn on Hannity, see the same lies, and love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 08:43 AM) My favorite part of that saga is the obviously fake letter Cohen put out to initially deny the claims that used her stage name instead of her real name. His base doesn't care, and neither do most people. Nothing will cause his "family values" conservative evangelical base to abandon him. Democrats would be much better served focusing on actual issues to motivate their voters rather than Trump's never-ending personal scandals imo. Yeah, in a normal world revelations that the President (or his lawyer) paid hush money shortly before the election to a porn star with whom he had cheated on his new wife who had recently given birth, but this will never stick to him. Then again, it wasn't that along ago when the left was the party of letting consenting adults have affairs in private being a thing as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 10:04 AM) Then again, it wasn't that along ago when the left was the party of letting consenting adults have affairs in private being a thing as well. Totally, of course that resulted in impeachment.. You'd also expect the "religious right" to condemn extra marital affairs, especially with a porn star/escort. But they dont give two s***s. Edited February 14, 2018 by RockRaines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 10:04 AM) Then again, it wasn't that along ago when the left was the party of letting consenting adults have affairs in private being a thing as well. Was it? I thought that brought impeachment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 The left impeached Clinton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 10:02 AM) He directly lies on average 3 times a day. HIs base doesnt give two s***s. They turn on Hannity, see the same lies, and love it. Jeanine Pirro on the same network, is just as bad as Hannity. I could never watch an entire show. Just like Keeping up with the Kardashians, I have tried to watch an entire show with both Pirro and Hannity, and could only take about 5 minutes of it before it was destroying too many brain cells to continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Democrats also don't call themselves "family morals" voters like the Trump-loving conservative evangelicals do, but hey gotta find a way to work that It Is Actually Democrats Who Are Bad angle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 10:09 AM) Democrats also don't call themselves "family morals" voters like the Trump-loving conservative evangelicals do, but hey gotta find a way to work that It Is Actually Democrats Who Are Bad angle Not bad, just opportunistic hypocrites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 10:14 AM) Not bad, just opportunistic hypocrites. Seems you could easily say that about the right. After all, they were the ones who impeached Clinton, and several of them who were leading the proceedings were doing the exact same thing he was. Now, they look the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 It's just such a weird (but normal) deflection because the post you quoted specifically said Democrats shouldn't try to make this some sort of campaigning issue? And also they're really not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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