NorthSideSox72 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Yesterday we posted the Just Missed players. Today it's prospects ranked 16th to 30th in the White Sox system. These aren't the elite names, but there is plenty of talent in the group. Would you have ranked any of these differently? Tomorrow the full list goes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Sad Burr didn't make the list.. He is my favorite RP addition this offseason (Greater than Viera) and I am also higher on Flores than most but this was a good list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Shocked Burr didn't make the just missed list either.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 It would be really nice for system depth to see a breakout season by Curbelo. We lack depth at both SS and 3B, so having guys emerge there would be awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I probably have tendencies to just rise and fall with the prospects progression but not really sure I have call on my radar anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 QUOTE (cjgalloway @ Jan 23, 2018 -> 09:57 AM) Shocked Burr didn't make the just missed list either.. Wait for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Surprised to see Curbelo that high. Hard to justify with what he has done so far. On the other hand, Bernardo Flores and Ryan Burr is really flying under the radar here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 23, 2018 -> 10:04 AM) Wait for it. I wouldn't in this case. Burr isn't in our T30. He's an arm worth tracking, don't get me wrong. But the system is deep enough there were a bunch of guys not even on the Just MIssed that could be real prospects. For relievers alone there are Ryan Burr, Brian Clark, Connor Walsh, Matt Foster, Danny Dopico, Kevin Escorcia, Victor Diaz, Will Kincanon, and JB Olson. All of them have MLB potential. But relievers generally have a much harder case to make to be ranked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwill Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I don’t get the Casey Gillespie love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 23, 2018 -> 11:18 AM) I wouldn't in this case. Burr isn't in our T30. He's an arm worth tracking, don't get me wrong. But the system is deep enough there were a bunch of guys not even on the Just MIssed that could be real prospects. For relievers alone there are Ryan Burr, Brian Clark, Connor Walsh, Matt Foster, Danny Dopico, Kevin Escorcia, Victor Diaz, Will Kincanon, and JB Olson. All of them have MLB potential. But relievers generally have a much harder case to make to be ranked. Hamilton joke. Wait for it is one of Burr's main songs in the musical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Hmm yes I did forget Victor Diaz was a person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yesterday333 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 23, 2018 -> 08:58 AM) It would be really nice for system depth to see a breakout season by Curbelo. We lack depth at both SS and 3B, so having guys emerge there would be awesome. I got to see Curbelo play in a couple games at the beginning of last season before he got hurt. He was the best athlete on the field and its too bad he got hurt. I wonder if he will be assigned to Great Falls again this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 23, 2018 -> 11:18 AM) I wouldn't in this case. Burr isn't in our T30. He's an arm worth tracking, don't get me wrong. But the system is deep enough there were a bunch of guys not even on the Just MIssed that could be real prospects. For relievers alone there are Ryan Burr, Brian Clark, Connor Walsh, Matt Foster, Danny Dopico, Kevin Escorcia, Victor Diaz, Will Kincanon, and JB Olson. All of them have MLB potential. But relievers generally have a much harder case to make to be ranked. What about Andre Davis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 QUOTE (kwill @ Jan 23, 2018 -> 11:20 AM) I don’t get the Casey Gillespie love. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 QUOTE (yesterday333 @ Jan 23, 2018 -> 11:33 AM) I got to see Curbelo play in a couple games at the beginning of last season before he got hurt. He was the best athlete on the field and its too bad he got hurt. I wonder if he will be assigned to Great Falls again this year. I really hope they push him to Kannapolis TBH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jan 23, 2018 -> 12:33 PM) What about Andre Davis? An afterthought at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I abstained from voting this year because work kept me from really deep diving, but it's interesting watching how the list compares with what I'd have had. Still excited about what Curbelo can bring if healthy. Vieira could end up a coup. QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 23, 2018 -> 12:18 PM) I wouldn't in this case. Burr isn't in our T30. He's an arm worth tracking, don't get me wrong. But the system is deep enough there were a bunch of guys not even on the Just MIssed that could be real prospects. For relievers alone there are Ryan Burr, Brian Clark, Connor Walsh, Matt Foster, Danny Dopico, Kevin Escorcia, Victor Diaz, Will Kincanon, and JB Olson. All of them have MLB potential. But relievers generally have a much harder case to make to be ranked. Damnit, NSS. You should know with SS2k5! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 QUOTE (kwill @ Jan 23, 2018 -> 12:20 PM) I don’t get the Casey Gillespie love. Short arm swing, no hip rotation, no bat speed. Saw him barrel one to CF last year on a homerun launch angle but it landed 15 feet short of the warning track. To me, he's not a prospect unless he can rework his swing to generate more power. No idea why he hasn't yet -- he certainly seems like he has the size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jan 23, 2018 -> 12:33 PM) What about Andre Davis? Looks like a starter still, at least for now, that's why I didn't mention him. But he's another guy to watch, even if he's not among the top 30 or even 40 names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Anyone with knowledge of the system can answer this. Would you say that the current group of position player prospects and their success or lack thereof would be an indicator to evaluate those who develop that talent ? I'm just curious with our lack of success in recent years with position player prospects and with changes made to the system if any one truly thinks the Sox have what it takes to develop these players or even draft well enough and recognize talent that basically just develops on its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jan 23, 2018 -> 11:23 PM) Anyone with knowledge of the system can answer this. Would you say that the current group of position player prospects and their success or lack thereof would be an indicator to evaluate those who develop that talent ? I'm just curious with our lack of success in recent years with position player prospects and with changes made to the system if any one truly thinks the Sox have what it takes to develop these players or even draft well enough and recognize talent that basically just develops on its own. I think so yes. The last two drafts under Hostetler we’ve drafted “ball players” over athletes for the most part. Collins, Call, Fisher, Burger, Sheets, & Gonzalez all fall into that bucket IMO. Those guys should be much easier to develop than the Courtney Hawkins of the world who have serious issues with pitch recognition & plate discipline. That doesn’t mean they should eventually turn into stars or even major league regulars, but we should see productive seasons out of them as progress up the system. At this point it’s impossible to say if Getz and of the other any player development changes have made much of a difference thus far. While Call gets a free pass due to injury, Fisher played himself out of top 30 lists with a very disappointing season. Collins raised red flags with his bat to ball issues. And obviously it’s way to early to judge, but Burger & Sheets didn’t exactly demonstrate the plus power potential we’ve been hearing about. Next year will be huge though as the Sox have actively working with these guys during instructs & the off-season to fix issues. If Collins can come back in 2018 with the hitch even semi-corrected and Burger & Sheets show signs of lofting the ball more, I’ll start getting a little more optimistic that Getz may be driving some real change. Edited January 24, 2018 by Chicago White Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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