caulfield12 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) https://www.yahoo.com/news/another-marlins-...-174617875.html Acquiring teams would have three (two relatively more expensive) years of control...if it was through 2021, or the Sox could extend him, but the cost would be pretty darned prohibitive. Otoh, the jury is far from out on Collins/Zavala defensively, and Castillo will (likely) only be around 1 1/2 years. Edited February 4, 2018 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 I wouldn't be opposed to entering the conversation to get back one of Miamis bad contracts in return for a good prospect. Tazawa. Zeigler. If the Marlins want to save money those are two guys who stunk last year make around 16 million should get you a good player to take on. Also gives our bullpen some meatshields before starting the clock on the guys in the minors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Would love realmuto, but no chance he comes here. He want's to join a winning club for one, for two it would cost a boatload of prospects, for three its just not time yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 23s Sources: #Marlins, #Nationals remain in touch but have not made progress on a J.T. Realmuto trade. Thus far, Miami has asked for deal to include Victor Robles or Juan Soto; Nats have said no. (@JonHeyman first reported Robles as part of ask.) @MLB @MLBNetwork Seems like the Marlins asking price is still high, so I doubt the Sox have any real interest unless that price drops down a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Feb 5, 2018 -> 10:28 AM) Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 23s Sources: #Marlins, #Nationals remain in touch but have not made progress on a J.T. Realmuto trade. Thus far, Miami has asked for deal to include Victor Robles or Juan Soto; Nats have said no. (@JonHeyman first reported Robles as part of ask.) @MLB @MLBNetwork Seems like the Marlins asking price is still high, so I doubt the Sox have any real interest unless that price drops down a lot. Robles is untouchable, but I can certainly see the Marlins requiring Juan Soto to be a part of the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Feb 5, 2018 -> 10:28 AM) Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 23s Sources: #Marlins, #Nationals remain in touch but have not made progress on a J.T. Realmuto trade. Thus far, Miami has asked for deal to include Victor Robles or Juan Soto; Nats have said no. (@JonHeyman first reported Robles as part of ask.) @MLB @MLBNetwork Seems like the Marlins asking price is still high, so I doubt the Sox have any real interest unless that price drops down a lot. It will be interesting to see how long they will sit on him to get a price. From the White Sox discussion end of things, what would people think of a deal that started with Zach Collins as the top guy?q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 5, 2018 -> 10:45 AM) It will be interesting to see how long they will sit on him to get a price. From the White Sox discussion end of things, what would people think of a deal that started with Zach Collins as the top guy?q Too soon to make that type of move IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 5, 2018 -> 10:45 AM) It will be interesting to see how long they will sit on him to get a price. From the White Sox discussion end of things, what would people think of a deal that started with Zach Collins as the top guy?q Realmuto does not make sense for the White Sox, especially after we just signed Castillo to a two year contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 5, 2018 -> 10:45 AM) It will be interesting to see how long they will sit on him to get a price. From the White Sox discussion end of things, what would people think of a deal that started with Zach Collins as the top guy?q Collins would not lead that deal.. lol. He'd be a second piece for Realmuto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 The Marlins seem to be doing a really brokea** Sox rebuild a year later. Thank god we have Hahn and not Jeter and Co. You look at all these talented guys being auctioned off and you think to yourself how the hell didn't they compete.. Yelich Ozuna Gordon Stanton Realmuto Then you still have okay pieces in Bour, I forget their third baseman off the top of my head,.. the overpaid, but decent 3B. I mean, they had a heck of a lot of talent but no real SP. Kind of the Sox, but opposite. We had Sale and Q and company, but just not enough bats. Then when didn't have what we needed to trade or acquire them to finish the team. Has to suck to be a Marlins fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Feb 5, 2018 -> 07:34 PM) The Marlins seem to be doing a really brokea** Sox rebuild a year later. Thank god we have Hahn and not Jeter and Co. You look at all these talented guys being auctioned off and you think to yourself how the hell didn't they compete.. Yelich Ozuna Gordon Stanton Realmuto Then you still have okay pieces in Bour, I forget their third baseman off the top of my head,.. the overpaid, but decent 3B. I mean, they had a heck of a lot of talent but no real SP. Kind of the Sox, but opposite. We had Sale and Q and company, but just not enough bats. Then when didn't have what we needed to trade or acquire them to finish the team. Has to suck to be a Marlins fan. Both teams should be ashamed they weren't more competitive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) Not to be callous, but the death of Jose Fernandez really messed up their chances to win. I mean think about the White Sox pre-selloff if suddenly Chris Sale just straight up disappeared. Not something you can just recover from. Edited February 5, 2018 by Eminor3rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxforlife05 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 The timing is not good for making a trade like this. We still don't know if Collins/Zavala are legit C options and have Castillo for another couple years. The Castillo signing looks like it was intended to be used as a transition to Collins/Zavala. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxforlife05 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Feb 5, 2018 -> 02:57 PM) Not to be callous, but the death of Jose Fernandez really messed up their chances to win. I mean think about the White Sox pre-selloff if suddenly Chris Sale just straight up disappeared. Not something you can just recover from. Amazing how much good young talent they had and did essentially nothing with. It seems like their farm dried up big time once those players made the majors. Edited February 5, 2018 by soxforlife05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Feb 5, 2018 -> 01:57 PM) Not to be callous, but the death of Jose Fernandez really messed up their chances to win. I mean think about the White Sox pre-selloff if suddenly Chris Sale just straight up disappeared. Not something you can just recover from. Totally forgot about him! True, you add him back into the mix? You are probably just one FA or trade for another strong arm from being right in it for 3-4 years. That really sent that team into a tailspin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Feb 5, 2018 -> 04:14 PM) Totally forgot about him! True, you add him back into the mix? You are probably just one FA or trade for another strong arm from being right in it for 3-4 years. That really sent that team into a tailspin. A quick check of last year's stats found them 7th in the bigs in position player fWAR but 28th in pitching. That supports your statement very strongly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 I couldn't name a single pitcher that they were trotting out in August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Marlins remind me a lot of when the Royals has an OF of Johnny Damon, Carlos Beltran and Jermaine Dye, a trio of players that were staples of playoff teams through the decade after they left. With Ozuna going to STL, Yellich to MIL and Stanton to NYY, looking very similar. edit: hmm i posted that before and forgot. Getting old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Feb 5, 2018 -> 03:14 PM) Totally forgot about him! True, you add him back into the mix? You are probably just one FA or trade for another strong arm from being right in it for 3-4 years. That really sent that team into a tailspin. Set my dynasty team into a tailspin too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 Or the Royals with Yordano Ventura, Cardinals with Taveras....but Fernandez was on a whole nother level. Whole franchise revolved around his future. That was also the final straw for Lurie, from everything reported. Of course, trading Sale with Stanton’s contract would have resulted with similar disappointment for Sox fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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