soxfan49 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Apr 14, 2018 -> 11:51 AM) I have always been an advocate of trading down pretty much regardless of draft selection, but if Nelson is there at 8, I think he is worth the pick. I have never seen a player with such unanimous praise. Aaron Curry, Chance Warmack, Robert Gallery and Andrew Luck were all “future HOF’ers” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 (edited) Not enough upside in a guard to take one top 10. He could be Steve Hutchinson, and make 12 pro bowls and still not be worth a top 10 pick. Once you get to around 18-20 it is ok, but not until then. Edited April 15, 2018 by Jack Parkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Apr 14, 2018 -> 12:34 PM) Aaron Curry, Chance Warmack, Robert Gallery and Andrew Luck were all “future HOF’ers” Not sure why you have Andrew Luck in that category. The only reason he won't end up in the HOF is if his shoulder stops him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 QUOTE (Jack Parkman @ Apr 14, 2018 -> 07:02 PM) Not enough upside in a guard to take one top 10. He could be Steve Hutchinson, and make 12 pro bowls and still not be worth a top 10 pick. Once you get to around 18-20 it is ok, but not until then. I disagree with that. I get it's not the most important position on the field, but it's not punter we are talking about. If you can lock in an All-Pro guard for 10+ years, I'm all for that, even at the #8 pick. If you go after a CB or LB because they are more important, there's no guarantee that player amounts to anything even though he's rated so high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 QUOTE (Jack Parkman @ Apr 14, 2018 -> 05:02 PM) Not enough upside in a guard to take one top 10. He could be Steve Hutchinson, and make 12 pro bowls and still not be worth a top 10 pick. Once you get to around 18-20 it is ok, but not until then. Everyone seems to be guaranteeing Nelson is Hutchinson. No one knows whether that will be true or not and there is a lot more risk projecting olinemen than there was 10 years ago. College blocking schemes differ so much now from the pro game that there is a lot more guesswork in the projection to the NFL. That said, if Nelson ended up being Hutchinson, I'd take that out of the #8 pick all day and every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Apr 16, 2018 -> 10:19 AM) Everyone seems to be guaranteeing Nelson is Hutchinson. No one knows whether that will be true or not and there is a lot more risk projecting olinemen than there was 10 years ago. College blocking schemes differ so much now from the pro game that there is a lot more guesswork in the projection to the NFL. That said, if Nelson ended up being Hutchinson, I'd take that out of the #8 pick all day and every day. Well, it helps that we have his former O-line coach for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I think Bears take Nelson if he is there, and trade back(Buffalo, Arizona) if he is taken before their selection. I wont be disappointed either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Man is there anything worse than NFL Draft Twitter? It's embarrassing constantly seeing overly sensitive fans writing incredibly offensive tweets at the scouting guys because they didn't make a mock draft that they liked, and of course are idiots because some of they gave a good grade on a player that was bad previously. It doesn't seem like the other sports (can't speak for hockey) bring the same kind of terrible fan as the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 17, 2018 -> 09:15 AM) Man is there anything worse than NFL Draft Twitter? It's embarrassing constantly seeing overly sensitive fans writing incredibly offensive tweets at the scouting guys because they didn't make a mock draft that they liked, and of course are idiots because some of they gave a good grade on a player that was bad previously. It doesn't seem like the other sports (can't speak for hockey) bring the same kind of terrible fan as the NFL. Especially given the unpredictable nature of the nfl draff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 17, 2018 -> 09:15 AM) I think Bears take Nelson if he is there, and trade back(Buffalo, Arizona) if he is taken before their selection. I wont be disappointed either way I don't think it's likely, but trading down and getting Davenport, Ward or Jackson, and then trading down again in the second, and finally getting a stockpile to move forward with for depth would be really nice. I just don't see the moves that make our pick valuable unless Allen falls or someone like Chubb gets there (take him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Apr 16, 2018 -> 10:19 AM) Everyone seems to be guaranteeing Nelson is Hutchinson. No one knows whether that will be true or not and there is a lot more risk projecting olinemen than there was 10 years ago. College blocking schemes differ so much now from the pro game that there is a lot more guesswork in the projection to the NFL. That said, if Nelson ended up being Hutchinson, I'd take that out of the #8 pick all day and every day. That's exactly it for me. I keep hearing how Nelson is a sure thing, but tons of guys were sure things before they ended up busting. All of these guys are a risk. I'm taking my chance on a risk at a more important position. QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 17, 2018 -> 09:12 AM) Well, it helps that we have his former O-line coach for that. But if Hiestand is as good as they say he is, they don't need a guy like Nelson. Edited April 17, 2018 by soxfan49 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Would Edmunds be able to play edge in the 3-4 scheme? I'd love to have him and Vander esch both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 QUOTE (knightni @ Apr 17, 2018 -> 02:55 PM) Would Edmunds be able to play edge in the 3-4 scheme? I'd love to have him and Vander esch both. Supposedly LVE's neck is f***ed. Rumors swirled yesterday that he's off of most teams' boards. I think Edmunds can play EDGE although he never has. I guess the assumption is his athleticism and Fangio's coaching will eventually get him to be successful there. IMO, he's best inside and roaming all over, similar to Anthony Barr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Apr 17, 2018 -> 04:08 PM) Supposedly LVE's neck is f***ed. Rumors swirled yesterday that he's off of most teams' boards. I think Edmunds can play EDGE although he never has. I guess the assumption is his athleticism and Fangio's coaching will eventually get him to be successful there. IMO, he's best inside and roaming all over, similar to Anthony Barr. Edmunds is so huge though (6'5" 250), he seems like a natural to be OLB/Edge in a 3-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 They say that his neck isn't a concern. https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steele...ealth-117427961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Don't sleep on Davenport, even at 8. He seems like a Pace guy to me. Pace seems to draft traits in the 1st round more than other GMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I keep seeing Landry higher and higher. I'd wonder if he wouldn't be a pace pick, but on the other hand they may start paying attn to medicals more now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) I’d take Roquan Smith if he?€™s there. No need to make this so difficult. You may be able to even trade down a few spots and get him. Edited April 17, 2018 by iamshack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 17, 2018 -> 04:05 PM) I’d take Roquan Smith if he?€™s there. No need to make this so difficult. You may be able to even trade down a few spots and get him. It’s difficult because he’s pretty small. Sideline to sideline, he’s great, but he was a mess in college when the OL got to the second level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 Colleen Kane? @ChiTribKane 47m47 minutes ago Bears announce that Devin Hester and Matt Forte will come to Halas Hall on Monday to sign one-day contracts so they can retire as Bears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Separate draft thread or nah? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Yeah - Let's do a separate draft thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 3:18 PM, Elgin Slim said: Don't sleep on Davenport, even at 8. He seems like a Pace guy to me. Pace seems to draft traits in the 1st round more than other GMs. I'd agree. His measurables were almost all better than Aldon Smith, and if it weren't for guns and booze, he'd probably be a 100 career sack guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dasox24 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 3 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Not sure there is even a decision to be made here. You decline the option. Zero reason to do otherwise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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