NorthSideSox72 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I usually wait until the March wave of releases to write a full-on article for FutureSox on this, so for fun for now, let's do it as a thread. Here is what I see as the likely current org Big Board, in terms of who will be assigned where. Some of these - especially the bullpens at the higher levels - are a complete mess and I am not highly confident in being right. But, here we go, and then we can discuss? MLB: C Wellington Castillo 1B Jose Abreu 2B Yoan Moncada SS Tim Anderson 3B Carlos Sanchez OF Ryan Cordell OF Adam Engel OF Avisail Garcia DH Matt Davidson (3B, 1B) B1 Omar Narvaez © B2 Nick Delmonico (1B, 3B, COF) B3 Tyler Saladino (3B, 2B) B4 Leury Garcia (CF, SS) SP Lucas Giolito SP James Shields SP Reynaldo Lopez SP Miguel Gonzalez SP Carson Fulmer RP Nate Jones RP Joakim Soria RP Aaron Bummer* RP Gregory Infante RP Dylan Covey RP Luis Avilan* RP Bruce Rondon DL LHP Carlos Rodon* --------- AAA: C Kevan Smith 1B Casey Gillaspie 2B Eddy Alvarez SS Jose Rondon 3B Trey Michalczewski OF Charlie Tilson OF Jacob May OF Willy Garcia DH Daniel Palka (OF, 1B) B1 Alfredo Gonzalez © B2 Patrick Leonard (INF) B3 Matt Skole (1B) B4 Mason Robbins (OF) SP Michael Kopech SP Spencer Adams SP Jordan Guerrero* SP Jordan Stephens SP Chris Beck RP Connor Walsh RP Brian Clark* RP Brad Goldberg RP Thyago Vieira RP Michael Ynoa RP Jace Fry* RP Tyler Danish DL RHP Zack Burdi ------------ AA: C Zack Collins 1B Matt Rose 2B Bryant Flete SS Danny Mendick 3B Ti'Quan Forbes OF Eloy Jimenez OF Jameson Fisher OF Tito Polo DH Courtney Hawkins (OF) B1 Yermin Mercedes © B2 Toby Thomas (INF) B3 Keon Barnum (1B) B4 Jeff Gelalich (OF) SP Alec Hansen SP Dane Dunning SP AJ Puckett SP Bernadro Flores* SP Ian Clarkin* RP Ian Hamilton RP Zach Thompson RP Jack Charleston RP Thad Lowry RP Louie Lechich* RP Kyle Kubat* RP Jose Ruiz ---------- A+: C Seby Zavala 1B Gavin Sheets 2B Johan Cruz SS Yeyson Yrizarri 3B Jake Burger OF Luis Alex Basabe OF Joel Booker OF Alex Call DH Micker Adolfo (OF) B1 Casey Schroeder © B2 Aaron Schnurbusch (OF) B3 Brady Conlan (3B/1B) B4 Grant Massey (UTIL) SP Dylan Cease SP Andre Davis* SP Jimmy Lambert SP Luis Martinez SP Yosmer Solorzano RP Ryan Burr RP Matt Foster RP Mike Morrison RP Danny Dopico RP Kevin Escorcia* RP Jake Elliott RP Ryan Riga* DL RHP Aron McRee --------- A: C Evan Skoug 1B Corey Zangari 2B Mitch Roman SS Laz Rivera 3B Justin Yurchak OF Luis Gonzalez OF Blake Rutherford OF Luis Robert DH Craig Dedelow (OF) B1 Carlos Perez © B2 Anthony Villa (1B/3B) B3 David Cronin (SS/2B) B4 Logan Taylor (OF) SP Tyler Johnson SP Lincoln Henzman SP Kade McClure SP Blake Hickman SP John Parke* RP Victor Diaz RP Will Kincanon RP JB Olson RP Joe Mockbee* RP Jaider Rocha* RP Ryan Boelter RP Blake Battenfield DL LHP Michael Horejsei ------------------ And here are the players unassigned by position group, but who belong in full season ball (not listing all the rookie leaguers here), with the key guys in bold: RHP Dustin Antolin (AAA) Robin Leyer (AAA) Drew Hasler (AA) Yelmison Peralta (A+) Brandon Brennan (AAA) Chris Volstad (AAA) Rob Scahill (AAA) Jeanmar Gomez (AAA) Danny Farquhar (AAA/MLB) Gonzalez Germen (AAA) Juan Minaya (AAA) Cameron Seitzer (A/A+) Luis Ledo (Rk-A) Mick VanVossen (A+) Lane Hobbs (A+) Brannon Easterling (AA) Ben Wright (A+) Donn Roach (AAA) LHP Tanner Banks (AA/AAA) TJ House (AAA) Xavier Cedeno (AAA) Colton Turner (AA/AAA) Andre Wheeler (AA) Matt Tomshaw (AA) INF Zach Remillard [3B/2B] (A+) Brandon Dulin [1B] (AA) Danny Hayes [1B] (AAA) Juan Perez [sS] (AAA) Jake Elmore [uIF] (AAA) Gerson Montilla [3B] (AA) Max Dutto [MIF] (A) Sam Dexter [uIF] (A) Alex Maloney [3B] (Rk-A) Dean Anna [uIF] (AAA) OF Nick Basto (AA, AAA) Louis Silverio (AA) Jacob Cooper (A) Tracy Hadley (A) JJ Muno (A) C Brett Austin (AA) Chris O'Dowd (AAA) Nate Nolan (A) Daniel Gonzalez (A+) Key rookie leaguers to open in Ext ST: Mike Hickman Franklin Reyes Tate Blackman Luis Curbelo Amado Nunez Tyler Frost Alex Destino Jose Garcia Maiker Feliz Jhoandro Alfaro Sam Abbott Mikey Duarte Lenyn Sosa Ramon Beltre Anthony Coronado Michael Staudinger Adam McGinnis Ricky Mota Felix Mercedes Nolan Brown Jose Colina Chris Comito Kyle Von Ruden Parker Rigler Andres Sanchez Zach Lewis* Hunter Kiel Ryan Erickson* Jhoan Quijada Greg Minier Michael McCormick Kevin George Vince Arobio Edinxon Arias Anthony Herron Bryan Saucedo Josue Gerardo Salvador Villarreal Ted Andrews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 wow! I couldn't even begin to think about something this big. The one that surprised me was you putting Zangari at 1b in Kanny. I think looking at something like this is why it's probably hard for sox fans to hear we aren't that deep. Compared to 2 years ago, super deep, but probably just have way more 40 FV guys than before and less 45's than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 12, 2018 Author Share Posted February 12, 2018 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 12, 2018 -> 01:30 PM) wow! I couldn't even begin to think about something this big. The one that surprised me was you putting Zangari at 1b in Kanny. I think looking at something like this is why it's probably hard for sox fans to hear we aren't that deep. Compared to 2 years ago, super deep, but probably just have way more 40 FV guys than before and less 45's than others. It's not impossible they decide Zangari isn't quite ready yet and have Anthony Villa start there, at least for now. Villa isn't really a prospect but he will be 24 for this season and destroyed PIO pitching. I don't think Franklin Reyes is ready and he's still a teenager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 12, 2018 Author Share Posted February 12, 2018 Also remember, around mid-March the team will release a bunch of minor leaguers. Usually about 15-20 of them. That will relieve some of the logjams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Is Zangari on pace to play for ST do you know? Unsure if the road back for position player TJS is different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 12, 2018 -> 02:30 PM) wow! I couldn't even begin to think about something this big. The one that surprised me was you putting Zangari at 1b in Kanny. I think looking at something like this is why it's probably hard for sox fans to hear we aren't that deep. Compared to 2 years ago, super deep, but probably just have way more 40 FV guys than before and less 45's than others. Agreed, awesome post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Guy I'm hoping is stateside for AZL start: Kleyder Sanchez. Sox converted him to catcher, as a 17 year old had a contact heavy profile in DSL, batting .342. Hoping that it showed up to scouts and isn't just a random weird approach that won't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 12, 2018 -> 03:16 PM) It's not impossible they decide Zangari isn't quite ready yet and have Anthony Villa start there, at least for now. Villa isn't really a prospect but he will be 24 for this season and destroyed PIO pitching. I don't think Franklin Reyes is ready and he's still a teenager. Zangari should definitely be in KAN, although I have Robert in A+ with Villa as a DH in KAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoedairy Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I think Seby will be in AA to do the DH/C thing with Collins like they did last season at WS. Courtney Hawkins doesn't need everyday at bats anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Interested to hear why you believe Cordell starts over Delmonico. If anything, I'd have Cordell starting in CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 12, 2018 Author Share Posted February 12, 2018 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 12, 2018 -> 02:30 PM) Is Zangari on pace to play for ST do you know? Unsure if the road back for position player TJS is different. As far as I know he'll be 100% ready in ST. He went down in March of last year, so it has been almost exactly a year. QUOTE (joejoedairy @ Feb 12, 2018 -> 02:46 PM) I think Seby will be in AA to do the DH/C thing with Collins like they did last season at WS. Courtney Hawkins doesn't need everyday at bats anymore. I don't think Courtney needs full time play either (in fact I think he should be pitching), but I think both Collins and Zavala need work behind the plate. QUOTE (Dunt @ Feb 12, 2018 -> 03:28 PM) Interested to hear why you believe Cordell starts over Delmonico. If anything, I'd have Cordell starting in CF. I think Delmonico will play all over - LF, 3B, 1B, DH. And I don't believe, from what I've read, that Cordell is a full time CF guy. More of a corner man I think, who can cover center in a pinch. But I could be wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 QUOTE (Dunt @ Feb 12, 2018 -> 04:28 PM) Interested to hear why you believe Cordell starts over Delmonico. If anything, I'd have Cordell starting in CF. Both utility guys but I expect Nicky D to start in LF and Cordell to play all over when possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 (edited) I would imagine Ryan Cordell would need to really impress to the break camp with the team. Since he missed a big chunk of last year I figure he'll need to show at least 100 quality PAs to justify getting the a roster spot. With the roster flexibility Leury, Saladino, Sanchez, Delmonico & Davidson provide I wonder if the Sox would consider carrying 8 bullpen arms. In that case I would assume Cordell is the most likely to start in Charlotte. Anyone have any hope Engel will hit enough to justify a big league job? Edited February 13, 2018 by mac9001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 I really think Curbelo opens the season with Kannapolis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 12, 2018 -> 07:38 PM) I really think Curbelo opens the season with Kannapolis. Seconded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Couple things I'd like to add: Yermin Mercedes was a rule-5 in the Triple-A phase. Pretty sure he has to stay in Charlotte or be sent back to the Orioles. I can't see Michalczewski or Adams making the jump to Charlotte. They had less than impressive years and still have things to work on. Sox would be doing them a disservice if they promoted them to begin the year, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Feb 12, 2018 -> 10:30 PM) Couple things I'd like to add: Yermin Mercedes was a rule-5 in the Triple-A phase. Pretty sure he has to stay in Charlotte or be sent back to the Orioles. I can't see Michalczewski or Adams making the jump to Charlotte. They had less than impressive years and still have things to work on. Sox would be doing them a disservice if they promoted them to begin the year, IMO. I don’t think the minor league portion of the Rule 5 draft works like that. I believe the Sox can start Mercedes at whatever level they like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 12, 2018 -> 06:38 PM) I really think Curbelo opens the season with Kannapolis. QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Feb 12, 2018 -> 08:12 PM) Seconded That's a tough call. I like Curbelo a lot as a prospect, certainly more than say Laz Rivera or Tate Blackman. But decisions in a rebuild like this, and the way Getz seems to do things, are about the right developmental spot and not rushing. Curbelo just turned 20 and has a grand total of 48 pro games, almost all of it in the AZL. He's a prep pick. I really think they will slow-move him through Ext ST, Great Falls, then Kanny later in the year maybe. Then accelerate more in 2019 from there if it goes well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 QUOTE (mac9001 @ Feb 12, 2018 -> 06:10 PM) I would imagine Ryan Cordell would need to really impress to the break camp with the team. Since he missed a big chunk of last year I figure he'll need to show at least 100 quality PAs to justify getting the a roster spot. With the roster flexibility Leury, Saladino, Sanchez, Delmonico & Davidson provide I wonder if the Sox would consider carrying 8 bullpen arms. In that case I would assume Cordell is the most likely to start in Charlotte. Anyone have any hope Engel will hit enough to justify a big league job? Consider? This was the case all of last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 13, 2018 -> 12:59 PM) Consider? This was the case all of last season. I actually meant to say 9 bullpen arms. With the flexibility Leury, Saladino & Sanchez provide I would consider putting a hard cap of 6 innings per start on the young arms and just trot out a new bullpen arm every inning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 QUOTE (mac9001 @ Feb 12, 2018 -> 07:10 PM) I would imagine Ryan Cordell would need to really impress to the break camp with the team. Since he missed a big chunk of last year I figure he'll need to show at least 100 quality PAs to justify getting the a roster spot. With the roster flexibility Leury, Saladino, Sanchez, Delmonico & Davidson provide I wonder if the Sox would consider carrying 8 bullpen arms. In that case I would assume Cordell is the most likely to start in Charlotte. Anyone have any hope Engel will hit enough to justify a big league job? Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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