greg775 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Apr 2, 2018 -> 04:20 PM) Good lord, how did the idea that advanced stats LIKED James Shields somehow enter into your head? Greg's bad. Here's my brain's thought process. Nobody's getting all over KW/Hahn for giving up Tatis for Shields so I assumed his advanced stats were good at the time of the trade cause Hahn lovers on here cite advanced stats a lot. That's my bad if his advanced stats reeked at the time of the deal. Don't get me wrong. I'm OK with Hahn. Not OK with Shields topping the rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 2, 2018 -> 01:32 PM) Greg's bad. Here's my brain's thought process. Nobody's getting all over KW/Hahn for giving up Tatis for Shields so I assumed his advanced stats were good at the time of the trade cause Hahn lovers on here cite advanced stats a lot. That's my bad if his advanced stats reeked at the time of the deal. Don't get me wrong. I'm OK with Hahn. Not OK with Shields topping the rotation. Holy s***, this couldn't be further from the truth. Perhaps some people just don't want to talk about it anymore because the trade happened 2 years ago, has been talked to death around here and the outcome really, really sucks so it's not super fun to talk about it. Constantly invoking that name is basically torture at this point, I've blocked the word Tatis on Twitter because I don't want to hear about it anymore, there's nothing I can do about it and hearing about it is not fun, sports are supposed to be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Apr 2, 2018 -> 07:45 PM) Holy s***, this couldn't be further from the truth. Perhaps some people just don't want to talk about it anymore because the trade happened 2 years ago, has been talked to death around here and the outcome really, really sucks so it's not super fun to talk about it. Constantly invoking that name is basically torture at this point, I've blocked the word Tatis on Twitter because I don't want to hear about it anymore, there's nothing I can do about it and hearing about it is not fun, sports are supposed to be fun. Great points. I personally didn't sense too much angst about the loss of Tatis cause Sox have so many solid to great prospects coming up soon. I figure most people just figure there's bound to be a mistake or two made in the rebuild. But if I'm wrong, I can accept that fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yesterday333 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 2, 2018 -> 12:49 PM) Great points. I personally didn't sense too much angst about the loss of Tatis cause Sox have so many solid to great prospects coming up soon. I figure most people just figure there's bound to be a mistake or two made in the rebuild. But if I'm wrong, I can accept that fact. HAHA if you go over to the futuresox side of the board you would see how much angst there is. I am so tired of hearing about the mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Tim Anderson is ragging on the White Sox twitter account for not including his walk. @TimAnderson7 Forget That @whitesox ???? Don’t forget that I walked!! ????????????#KnowThoseHardToComeBy???????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 QUOTE (yesterday333 @ Apr 2, 2018 -> 08:22 PM) HAHA if you go over to the futuresox side of the board you would see how much angst there is. I am so tired of hearing about the mistake. I can forgive him for a mistake. I just wish they'd have found a way to dump Shields. Pay half his salary or something to get him out of The Cell or Grate Field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 2, 2018 -> 04:29 PM) I can forgive him for a mistake. I just wish they'd have found a way to dump Shields. Pay half his salary or something to get him out of The Cell or Grate Field. They probably will get rid of him somehow next month when Kopech is up, depending on how Fulmer is doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share Posted April 2, 2018 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 2, 2018 -> 05:30 PM) They probably will get rid of him somehow next month when Kopech is up, depending on how Fulmer is doing If the Sox are responsible for his option, they owe Shields $12 million more. If not, they owe him $10 million. At $12 million, we are talking about $2 million a month. Honestly I think they keep him around long enough to see if a miracle happens, and then when someone is ready, off goes Shields to unemploymnent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 2, 2018 -> 05:47 PM) If the Sox are responsible for his option, they owe Shields $12 million more. If not, they owe him $10 million. At $12 million, we are talking about $2 million a month. Honestly I think they keep him around long enough to see if a miracle happens, and then when someone is ready, off goes Shields to unemploymnent. I'm pretty sure San Diego is covering the option buyout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 I'm not in a hurry to dump Shields. It's already a sunken cost and the guy had been takingthe ball on cue. Last two months of 2017, he went 5-6+ innings with 4 ER or less every time. There is value in that if he still does it consistently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Moncada leading MLB in barrels/PA early: https://twitter.com/darenw/status/981225460284690432 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 Scott Merkin?Verified account @scottmerkin 16h16 hours ago We now return you to baseball. Remember @whitesox home opener Thursday and A.J. Pierzynski throwing out ceremonial first pitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 4, 2018 Author Share Posted April 4, 2018 If you didn't see Avi's homer last night, you should check it out. Chicago White Sox?Verified account @whitesox 14h14 hours ago 481 feet. 116.7 MPH. The longest home run by a #WhiteSox player since @statcast started charting in 2015. Not a bad 1st home run of 2018, Avi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Red line radio podcast up with Burger. Jake couldn't have come across more likable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Juan Minaya to AAA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 9, 2018 Author Share Posted April 9, 2018 This is interesting because there has been the urban legend that the White Sox were actually the Arod Runners Up at $160 million. Andrew Marchand?Verified account @AndrewMarchand 14h14 hours ago Andrew Marchand Retweeted Evan Grant Yes, Boras forced him to take $252M when highest next known offer was like $128M from Braves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 9, 2018 -> 11:17 AM) This is interesting because there has been the urban legend that the White Sox were actually the Arod Runners Up at $160 million. Andrew Marchand?Verified account @AndrewMarchand 14h14 hours ago Andrew Marchand Retweeted Evan Grant Yes, Boras forced him to take $252M when highest next known offer was like $128M from Braves. Really? I don't remember where I heard this, but I had thought that we offered 200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 Scott Merkin?Verified account @scottmerkin 8m8 minutes ago MLB leader in batted balls with 100+ mph exit velocity? None other than Jose Abreu with 16, including two yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 There's a new book out published by the Chicago Tribune called A Decade by Decade History of the Chicago White Sox. Lots of interesting photos of past White Sox players and teams. I think one of the most interesting items in the book is how it tells that Edward DeBartolo wanted to buy the White Sox from Bill Veeck. The AL owners thought he might move the team out of state and he agreed to put in writing that he would keep the team in the Chicagoland area AND build a new stadium WITH HIS OWN MONEY. The AL owners still rejected his bid to buy the team. They then wound up approving JR as the owner, who in a few years threatened and almost moved the team to Florida. Having JR acquire the White Sox instead of DeBartolo has to be one of the worse things to ever happen to the White Sox franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 QUOTE (WBWSF @ Apr 13, 2018 -> 07:59 AM) There's a new book out published by the Chicago Tribune called A Decade by Decade History of the Chicago White Sox. Lots of interesting photos of past White Sox players and teams. I think one of the most interesting items in the book is how it tells that Edward DeBartolo wanted to buy the White Sox from Bill Veeck. The AL owners thought he might move the team out of state and he agreed to put in writing that he would keep the team in the Chicagoland area AND build a new stadium WITH HIS OWN MONEY. The AL owners still rejected his bid to buy the team. They then wound up approving JR as the owner, who in a few years threatened and almost moved the team to Florida. Having JR acquire the White Sox instead of DeBartolo has to be one of the worse things to ever happen to the White Sox franchise. Yea I’m sure Debartolo would have totally built a stadium with his own money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 13, 2018 -> 08:14 AM) Yea I’m sure Debartolo would have totally built a stadium with his own money I don't doubt it for a minute that DeBartolo would have built his own stadium. He made his fortune building shopping centers. I heard one of the writers from the Tribune on radio say that the new stadium would have been built next to a shopping center somewhere in the western suburbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 If DeBartolo bought the team, he would have built the best stadium, would have have the highest payroll, the cheapest prices, and the best team, and it would have gone on for eternity. The 49ers prove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 QUOTE (WBWSF @ Apr 13, 2018 -> 08:25 AM) I don't doubt it for a minute that DeBartolo would have built his own stadium. He made his fortune building shopping centers. I heard one of the writers from the Tribune on radio say that the new stadium would have been built next to a shopping center somewhere in the western suburbs. Of course you dont doubt it, you believe anyone if they tell you they are great and reinsdorf is terrible. QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 13, 2018 -> 08:27 AM) If DeBartolo bought the team, he would have built the best stadium, would have have the highest payroll, the cheapest prices, and the best team, and it would have gone on for eternity. The 49ers prove it. season tickets would be free for the fans that loved Eddie the most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 13, 2018 -> 08:32 AM) Of course you dont doubt it, you believe anyone if they tell you they are great and reinsdorf is terrible. I don't think JR is terrible. I think he's a great owner. After all the team has been at the bottom in the standings, attendance and TV ratings fro years. What more could any White Sox fan want from an owner? season tickets would be free for the fans that loved Eddie the most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Believe me WBWSF, i know your opinion on Reinsdorf. You whine about him incessantly, the space he occupies in your head is immense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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