fathom Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Apr 4, 2018 -> 02:49 AM) That might be the longest homer I've ever seen Yolmer hit. That's longer than any homer I saw Frank hit in BP at the park with an aluminum bat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 3, 2018 -> 06:43 PM) an ops of 740 from your age 22 2B, assuming solid baserunning and defense is like a 2-3 WAR season. If he can OPS 840, that's like a 4 WAR season. You can see why people are excited... And where did you get 100 extra OPS? Is he gonna hit 20 more home runs than I gave him? Remember, I was generous on his BABIP, so .740 is lucky. Not likely. The only path to serious success lies in cutting down strikeouts. It seems like he strikes out looking a lot, so maybe that’s a positive sign, but if it doesn’t get better somehow, he’s not going to be worth what we gave up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 3, 2018 -> 09:51 PM) I saw a picture of him from spring training workouts and dude is absolutely jacked. After that homer, I'm not unconvinced Yolmer isn't actually the Hulk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 QUOTE (StrykerSox @ Apr 3, 2018 -> 08:51 PM) And where did you get 100 extra OPS? Is he gonna hit 20 more home runs than I gave him? Remember, I was generous on his BABIP, so .740 is lucky. Not likely. I still don't know why you think he's gonna be a worse hitter than he was last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 3, 2018 -> 08:48 PM) catch probability 41% on that engel drop so no, it really wasn't an extraordinary play. It wasn't routine. It was a play, as I said, that an "elite fielding", light hitting starting MLB CF needs to make more often than not. And credit Engel, he knows it, you could see it on his face. You still on that? You said an MLB CF needs to make. Me, CWS and another guy said no (in fact that percentage actually proves our point that most CFs don't even get to that ball). You're wrong, it's not a big deal. Edited April 4, 2018 by SoxAce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 3, 2018 -> 09:51 PM) Does catch probability on a fly ball take into account shifts/where the fielder starts at, or is it purely based on batted ball stats? both really. https://www.mlb.com/news/statcast-introduce...017/c-217802340 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) QUOTE (SoxAce @ Apr 3, 2018 -> 09:53 PM) You still on that? You said an MLB CF needs to make. Me, CWS and another guy said no (in fact that percentage actually proves our point that most CFs don't even get to that ball). You're wrong, it happens. No, I said that an ELITE defensive, light hitting starting CF needs to make that play more.often.than.not. And I was right. I've watched a lot of f***ing baseball, more than Jason (played more too), my reaction was 100% to Jason, who was blabbing on and on about how hardly any other ML CF get to that ball. Engel overran the damn thing in the end. Edited April 4, 2018 by chitownsportsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Clown fest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 3, 2018 -> 08:53 PM) both really. https://www.mlb.com/news/statcast-introduce...017/c-217802340 Thanks. And I see your point- if Engel is gonna be a complete liability offensively, he needs to make 4 star grabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 I wonder if chitownsportsfan thinks Engel should've got that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Pitching....it's bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Apr 3, 2018 -> 09:58 PM) Clown fest Yup!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Engel's throw on that... good lord that was bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 QUOTE (StrykerSox @ Apr 3, 2018 -> 08:51 PM) And where did you get 100 extra OPS? Is he gonna hit 20 more home runs than I gave him? Remember, I was generous on his BABIP, so .740 is lucky. Not likely. The only path to serious success lies in cutting down strikeouts. It seems like he strikes out looking a lot, so maybe that’s a positive sign, but if it doesn’t get better somehow, he’s not going to be worth what we gave up. Why would a .740 OPS be unlikely or lucky if it’s worse than what he did last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 QUOTE (StrykerSox @ Apr 3, 2018 -> 08:51 PM) And where did you get 100 extra OPS? Is he gonna hit 20 more home runs than I gave him? Remember, I was generous on his BABIP, so .740 is lucky. Not likely. The only path to serious success lies in cutting down strikeouts. It seems like he strikes out looking a lot, so maybe that’s a positive sign, but if it doesn’t get better somehow, he’s not going to be worth what we gave up. Better somehow? He’s 22 years old and has one of the loudest set of tools in Major League Baseball. He’ll most definitely get better, the only question is how much. It almost seems like you’ve never this guy actually play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 cant see how Kopech isn’t on this team by June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Not to mention Moncada is already one of the best defensive 2B in the game. A .750 OPS to go with that is a very valuable player- and that number will most likely go up throughout his career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 this pitching staff is a great way to ruin team chemistry, literally 2 guys responsible for this L lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 3, 2018 -> 06:52 PM) I still don't know why you think he's gonna be a worse hitter than he was last year I dunno, man. Math is math. However, I did short him about 10 walks. Maybe that does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 I applaud the effort Delmonico... you weren't close at all, but I applaud the effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Barf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 QUOTE (Real @ Apr 3, 2018 -> 09:05 PM) this pitching staff is a great way to ruin team chemistry, literally 2 guys responsible for this L lol. The more often they go to the bullpen, the more often the lesser quality pitchers come into the game. The starters need to go deeper into games as the season progresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Apr 3, 2018 -> 09:08 PM) I applaud the effort Delmonico... you weren't close at all, but I applaud the effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 3, 2018 -> 09:03 PM) Not to mention Moncada is already one of the best defensive 2B in the game. A .750 OPS to go with that is a very valuable player- and that number will most likely go up throughout his career Moncada’s floor is probably a 2.5 WAR player. That would be with basically no improvement. His ceiling is a 6 to 7 WAR player. If I had to guess, I’d wager he ends up much closer to his ceiling than floor. It will take time though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Apr 3, 2018 -> 10:08 PM) I applaud the effort Delmonico... you weren't close at all, but I applaud the effort. Schwarber-esque right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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