Greg Hibbard Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 I assumed with last season's offensive performance he was as good as gone as a major leaguer no matter how good his defense is/was Is there seriously no other option? Seems like another Cody Asche situation from last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Apr 5, 2018 -> 08:47 AM) I assumed with last season's offensive performance he was as good as gone as a major leaguer no matter how good his defense is/was Is there seriously no other option? Seems like another Cody Asche situation from last year. Sure, Cordell...maybe Skole, but they should be playing everyday. Saladino knows his role, has good speed off the bench, posesses a lot of versatility, and had a ton of physical/back problems so they’ll give him at least 3-4 months to see if he can rebound. Seems to get along with all of his teammates. Already 29. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 5, 2018 -> 10:12 AM) Sure, Cordell...maybe Skole, but they should be playing everyday. Saladino knows his role, has good speed off the bench, posesses a lot of versatility, and had a ton of physical/back problems so they’ll give him at least 3-4 months to see if he can rebound. Seems to get along with all of his teammates. Already 29. Ok, that all makes sense. I hope for the best for him, but last year post-April he was just abysmal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 I'm not crazy about him being on the team but this isn't a cody asche situation. He was clearly injured last year. But those most likely to replace him in AAA aren't as versatile defensively. I am worried that he's mainly taking away Sanchez' at bats, which I'm not a fan of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 Just so long as we keep talking about Cody Asche. That's the main thing, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 Perhaps Sanchez will hit so well this will eventually be a non-issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 He can play every position in the infield and him on the roster keeps L. Garcia as the back up OF. If Cordell replaced him then Garcia would be your back up 2B/SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Apr 5, 2018 -> 10:39 AM) He can play every position in the infield and him on the roster keeps L. Garcia as the back up OF. If Cordell replaced him then Garcia would be your back up 2B/SS Plus Sanchez can back up those positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 The only person who might have legit had a chance at his spot was traded in the offseason. Leury was already the 4th OF going into ST (even though he should be starting CF). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Apr 5, 2018 -> 10:41 AM) Plus Sanchez can back up those positions. True but then you have Davidson as your 3B and that is not something anyone wants late in games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 5, 2018 -> 10:33 AM) I'm not crazy about him being on the team but this isn't a cody asche situation. He was clearly injured last year. But those most likely to replace him in AAA aren't as versatile defensively. I am worried that he's mainly taking away Sanchez' at bats, which I'm not a fan of. I do think Tyler really had issues through injury last year, as the drop off in his place was stark. Realistically, we don't need to be in any hurry to get rid of him, even if the drop off is real. Let him play and figure it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 I think we need a player like Saladino in the lineup. Assuming he won't be used much, here's my optimal lineup. We need some non power hitters to set the table. Leury cf (no Engel) Moncada 2b Avi rf Abreu 1b Davidson 1B Anderson ss Delmonico LF Castillo c Sanchez 3B or Saladino or Sanchez 3B Anderson ss Moncada 2B Abreu 1B Avi rf Davidson DH Delmonico lf Castillo c Leury/Engel cf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Jose Rondon is an option here, but they want him at Charlotte for now. If Salad is truly gone, he won't be around for long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 i think Saladinos back is going to be an issue with him going forward. And that isnt something people just recover from, unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 The way I see it, he should be the last guy on the bench. He could have helped his stock by picking up the ability to play OF, but that's obviously easier said than done. He's a better defensive replacement than Leury in the infield, but given what we saw last year Leury is the better bat and offers OF defense as well. The main concern with keeping Saladino around is whether Renteria can resist giving him too much playing time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 5, 2018 -> 10:48 AM) I do think Tyler really had issues through injury last year, as the drop off in his place was stark. Realistically, we don't need to be in any hurry to get rid of him, even if the drop off is real. Let him play and figure it out. if the drop off is real, what exactly is he figuring out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Apr 5, 2018 -> 12:20 PM) if the drop off is real, what exactly is he figuring out? You have to play him to figure it out. He has shown in the past he is talented enough to be on a major league roster. The Sox should still be in talent accumulation mode, and Saladino is a part of that process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Non issue. Last man on a non contending team when any kid needs playing time and wont get it in Sally's spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 5, 2018 -> 12:26 PM) You have to play him to figure it out. He has shown in the past he is talented enough to be on a major league roster. The Sox should still be in talent accumulation mode, and Saladino is a part of that process. Your series of points don't make sense to me. You say on the one hand he's been proven to be an ML in the past. However, you also said "even the drop off is real" - which is the point I'm addressing. Not his 2016 and before status, but the 2017 drop off, which is well below what I feel is acceptable from an ML hitter. So, if we're talking about the drop off being real, we are talking Saladino as now a .178 BA / .484 OPS ML hitter. If that's where he is at, and it's real, what exactly is he figuring out? What value do the Sox have in the occasional start for him to figure it out...if the drop off is real? I understand using him purely as a defensive replacement late in games with the occasional AB. Edited April 5, 2018 by Greg Hibbard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Apr 5, 2018 -> 12:58 PM) Your series of points don't make sense to me. You say on the one hand he's been proven to be an ML in the past. However, you also said "even the drop off is real" - which is the point I'm addressing. Not his 2016 and before status, but the 2017 drop off, which is well below what I feel is acceptable from an ML hitter. So, if we're talking about the drop off being real, we are talking Saladino as now a .178 BA / .484 OPS ML hitter. If that's where he is at, and it's real, what exactly is he figuring out? What value do the Sox have in the occasional start for him to figure it out...if the drop off is real? I understand using him purely as a defensive replacement late in games with the occasional AB. Until he plays, you have no idea if his problem was health or play related, hence the "if". The Sox a very obviously betting that last year was the fluke, and not his previous experience, and they have WAY more information than any of us on Tyler Saladino. All you have to look at is his 2016 season where he put up half a season as a league average hitter, and a guy who can fill in at 6 or 7 positions. With rosters saturated with pitching these days, guys like that have value. The only way to know if Tyler is really the 2016 or 2017 player is for him to get ABs. The Sox are in no need to rush players and assets out of the system right now. As a cost controlled player, still away from free agency, Saladino can have some value if he recovers. There is also no one he is blocking right now. He is the primary defensive back up all over the IF. Who else would do that? Why the rush? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 5, 2018 -> 12:26 PM) You have to play him to figure it out. He has shown in the past he is talented enough to be on a major league roster. The Sox should still be in talent accumulation mode, and Saladino is a part of that process. Can he be optioned to Charlotte? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 (edited) If we had Peter (back) or Elmore there...or one of two new SS?€™s in AAA, would we be any better off? Or Cordell sitting on the bench 85% of the time? Signing Brandon Phillips? Not seeing it. Edited April 5, 2018 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Not sure why the Sox would have Saldino in their long term plans, being that he is already 28, but that doesn't mean he needs to be cut from the team. It makes no sense sense to me to replace Sally with someone at this current place and time. Jose Rondon is theoretically next on the list and he needs to be playing every day. Alvarez (as much of a feel good story that he is) has shown nothing at Charlotte and is already 28 as well. And does anyone really think that Jake Elmore, Juan Perez, or Ryan Brett are going to be more valuable to the Sox at this stage in the season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 I wonder if Ricky hates Saladino's game. My guess is he won't be entering many games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Saladino has speed, covers three IF positions and has had back issues so a backup role is prefect for him. I don't see a problem with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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