caulfield12 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Byron Buxton has a career 698 ops in 912 at-bats over 3+ seasons...also a former #1 prospect in baseball. 21—.576 22—.714 23—.727 Didn’t become a truly valuable player until last season, largely due to his Gold Glove defense. I do have a concern that he’s never going to be a huge stolen base threat, but in modrn baseball, that risks a lot of potential injuries that are not worth taking him out of the lineup (see Luis Robert slide in ST.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Omg, Buxton at a 478 ops this year, send him back down! 23 at bats, no walks, 4 singles, 2B, 9 k’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 QUOTE (cjgalloway @ Apr 7, 2018 -> 07:47 AM) You're fooling yourself if each and everyone one of us isn't at least a little concerned over Moncada.. I agree, but I’m waiting until he’s played 162 games in a Sox uniform. Let’s take a look at those numbers in August, when he’s 23 and played a full year. Hopefully it’s an OPS+ over 100, and trending up. I’m expecting he’ll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Andrew Benintendi, the "more polished" player the Red Sox refused to trade, is batting .174 with no extra base hits. Please, I beg of you, forget this thread exists...cast it into a deep pit and move on with your lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 QUOTE (daggins @ Apr 7, 2018 -> 10:36 AM) Andrew Benintendi, the "more polished" player the Red Sox refused to trade, is batting .174 with no extra base hits. Please, I beg of you, forget this thread exists...cast it into a deep pit and move on with your lives. Benintendi played 151 games last year and had a .776 OPS at the same age Moncada is now. That’s the kind of season we’re looking for from Moncada, and I don’t think it’s a lot to expect from a former #1 overall prospect. He can do it, and I expect he will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 If Moncada hit that grand slam in Toronto this thread wouldn't exist. Wow he sucked in 30 degree weather, we played 6 games.. he's 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 QUOTE (cjgalloway @ Apr 7, 2018 -> 07:47 AM) You're fooling yourself if each and everyone one of us isn't at least a little concerned over Moncada.. Looking at the comments in this thread you're fooling yourself if you think each and every one of us is a little concerned. I am genuinely not in the least bit concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Apr 6, 2018 -> 09:31 PM) If he can't play in the cold, that'll be a problem in 2020 and beyond. It still is a problem for Jose Abreu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 (edited) Pretty hard to compare an advanced collegiate hitter in Benintendi to a raw Cuban in Moncada. If you factor in pro-rated WAR, Moncada was arguably more effective despite struggling mightily out of the gate. A strong middle infielder will always be worth more to a team than an average left fielder, too. Edited April 7, 2018 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 7, 2018 -> 10:57 AM) It still is a problem for Jose Abreu. The ball player or board member? I kid I kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 7, 2018 -> 11:03 AM) Pretty hard to compare an advanced collegiate hitter in Benintendi to a raw Cuban in Moncada. If you factor in pro-rated WAR, Moncada was arguably more effective despite struggling mightily out of the gate. A strong middle infielder will always be worth more to a team than an average left fielder, too. I’m just saying it’s not wrong to expect Moncada to have a good season this year. Yes, if you’re mad about six games, you’re a moron. But they didn’t get a number 1 prospect for Sale to just be average in the long run. He needs to be one of the better players in the Sox lineup, hopefully batting 1st or 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Apr 7, 2018 -> 11:05 AM) The ball player or board member? I kid I kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Apr 7, 2018 -> 11:05 AM) The ball player or board member? I kid I kid. I can't hit well in the cold, so he definitely meant me. But the joke's on him, because I can't hit well in any weather anymore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 7, 2018 -> 11:11 AM) QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 7, 2018 -> 11:16 AM) I can't hit well in the cold, so he definitely meant me. But the joke's on him, because I can't hit well in any weather anymore! Welcome to the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 2 hits and a walk today, he's a bust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 QUOTE (reiks12 @ Apr 7, 2018 -> 06:42 PM) 2 hits and a walk today, he's a bust Bustan Monbusta? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 QUOTE (reiks12 @ Apr 7, 2018 -> 04:42 PM) 2 hits and a walk today, he's a bust Yea, total bust. He didn’t even hit a home run or steal a base. Bum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Would not be surprised at all if he lead the team in WAR this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 QUOTE (daggins @ Apr 7, 2018 -> 11:36 AM) Andrew Benintendi, the "more polished" player the Red Sox refused to trade, is batting .174 with no extra base hits. Please, I beg of you, forget this thread exists...cast it into a deep pit and move on with your lives. As a White Sox fan living in Red Sox country that is a terrible comparison. Benintendi and Moncada arrived together from AA to the Majors. Moncada went back to AAA while Benintendi stayed in the majors. Benintendi has 700 ABs 22 HR- 105 RBI-22-SB 89 BB/140 SO and a .270 avg. Moncada has 286 ABS 9HR -26 RBI 3 SB 35 BB/98 SO and a .226 avg. Benintendi has been a stud since he arrived. Moncada has struggled for 2+ years. I still think Moncada has a higher ceiling. To make it worse for me, even Devers who was behind Moncada arrived last year , has similiar ABS as Moncada and put up better numbers. I would take Moncada over him as well but I do have "White"-colored glasses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 QUOTE (SCCWS @ Apr 8, 2018 -> 03:21 PM) Benintendi has been a stud since he arrived. Moncada has struggled for 2+ years. I still think Moncada has a higher ceiling. To make it worse for me, even Devers who was behind Moncada arrived last year , has similiar ABS as Moncada and put up better numbers. I would take Moncada over him as well but I do have "White"-colored glasses. Yikes... Benintendi was promising last year but I'd hardly call him a stud. Moncada's "struggles" have been going on for about a week, not 2+ years. He was an above average player in his MLB time last year, I can't find a single metric that says otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 QUOTE (SCCWS @ Apr 8, 2018 -> 02:21 PM) As a White Sox fan living in Red Sox country that is a terrible comparison. Benintendi and Moncada arrived together from AA to the Majors. Moncada went back to AAA while Benintendi stayed in the majors. Benintendi has 700 ABs 22 HR- 105 RBI-22-SB 89 BB/140 SO and a .270 avg. Moncada has 286 ABS 9HR -26 RBI 3 SB 35 BB/98 SO and a .226 avg. Benintendi has been a stud since he arrived. Moncada has struggled for 2+ years. I still think Moncada has a higher ceiling. To make it worse for me, even Devers who was behind Moncada arrived last year , has similiar ABS as Moncada and put up better numbers. I would take Moncada over him as well but I do have "White"-colored glasses. Hey I live in Boston, hello fellow N'Englander. Anyways, the point isn't to compare the two players, but to compare the sample sizes, both of which aren't large. Also lol at "2+ years". With 286 PA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 I have both Moncada and Benintendi on my fantasy roster. Benintendi has been worse. Small sample size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 (edited) Moncada has 286 career PA's. To say "2+ years" is so disengenuous that it's pretty much just a lie. What an awful point. Edited April 8, 2018 by TaylorStSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Apr 8, 2018 -> 04:36 PM) Moncada has 286 career PA's. To say "2+ years" is so disengenuous that it's pretty much just a lie. What an awful point. He said that he has been "struggling" for 2+ years, which makes it even worse. 2+ years = about 10 days I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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