Baron Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 12, 2018 -> 08:03 PM) Anderson has some of the worst footwork I've seen from a big league SS The OF is incredibly bad...the infield is bad. It's just all bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 13, 2018 Author Share Posted April 13, 2018 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 12, 2018 -> 08:03 PM) Anderson has some of the worst footwork I've seen from a big league SS It's a shame because I remembered him being pretty good defensively in 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) Tired of the excuses daily about TA lousy errors from booth. Machado at SS next year please. Edited April 13, 2018 by Soxfest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 89 mph, yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Why does Stone keep talking like Giolito had a good curve last year? He legit had two swing and misses on it all year. He looks like total garbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Apr 12, 2018 -> 08:04 PM) Tired of the excuses daily about TA lousy errors. Who has excuses for his defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 12, 2018 -> 05:59 PM) Now this is something the three of us agree on lol I usually use the enemy’s at bats as my time to take s***s, cook dinner, rough house with the kids, and so on. I hear Engel is a great defender. So, does his arm always suck that bad or was that pop up an exception? Also, why are we being stingy over one run in the 3rd inning. Get the out, please (and of course, it comes back to bite us). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 meatball. I could have laced that one out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Gotta stay patient with Yoan and Gio as they were centerpieces of two huge trades. If these guys don't work out there will be "no 2020" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 12, 2018 -> 08:59 PM) Doesn't show his velocity in Charlotte There was a lot of doom and gloom about his velocity in Charlotte early last season, but no we don't have hard measurements. I don't know how you could look at that and not be really concerned about it. It's not 100% evidence of something that can't be flukey, but it's certainly much more probable than not that his "true" velocity irrespective of time of season/weather is on a downward trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Apr 12, 2018 -> 08:05 PM) Who has excuses for his defense? Stone and Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) QUOTE (Jake @ Apr 12, 2018 -> 09:05 PM) There was a lot of doom and gloom about his velocity in Charlotte early last season, but no we don't have hard measurements. I don't know how you could look at that and not be really concerned about it. It's not 100% evidence of something that can't be flukey, but it's certainly much more probable than not that his "true" velocity irrespective of time of season/weather is on a downward trend. the velocity drop wouldn't be too concerning if he had a nasty curve and good changeup but FFS where is all this "stuff" he was supposed to have? I gotta say that Parkman thread comparing his stuff to Floyd's looks absolute bonkers wrong right now. As I said, he looks like James Shields. Edited April 13, 2018 by chitownsportsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Apr 12, 2018 -> 07:51 PM) He never said anyhing about his physical gifts or his talent. The argument is that s*** doesn’t matter if he keeps striking out Moncada has plus-plus bat speed, plus raw power, plus-plus speed, walks at a double-digit rate, and has a strong ass arm. Those tools/skills will allow Moncada to be a damn good player despite a high K rate. That’s our side of the argument. That and the fact that he’s 22 years old and will f***ing get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 QUOTE (Jake @ Apr 13, 2018 -> 01:05 AM) There was a lot of doom and gloom about his velocity in Charlotte early last season, but no we don't have hard measurements. I don't know how you could look at that and not be really concerned about it. It's not 100% evidence of something that can't be flukey, but it's certainly much more probable than not that his "true" velocity irrespective of time of season/weather is on a downward trend. I think his mechanics just suck right now. Not worried about an injury, but also never really thought he'd be more than a bottom of the rotation starter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 12, 2018 -> 07:52 PM) Yoan is fouling off too many fastballs over the plate instead of squaring up. Maybe he needs a pair of those Tyler Flowers magic glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footlongcomiskeydog Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 12, 2018 -> 08:04 PM) Why does Stone keep talking like Giolito had a good curve last year? He legit had two swing and misses on it all year. He looks like total garbage Pretty much all of the Sox prospects except Lopez look like garbage right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Giolito absolutely getting killed by bad defense and 50/50 calls behind him...that's at least 4-5 ER's that he shouldn't have on his record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 12, 2018 -> 09:10 PM) Giolito absolutely getting killed by bad defense and 50/50 calls behind him...that's at least 4-5 ER's that he shouldn't have on his record. he has 6 strikeouts in 12 innings. that's not going to work even with the 2016 Cubs defense behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 5-4-3 DP 4-6-3 DP or 6-4-3 DP here for Jose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 that's really why i don't like jason, he just described a biting curve ball as "swaying in the breeze". lolwut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Oh my goodness. LOL.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 If you play fantasy baseball and have a pitcher going against the Sox....start em!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 oh dear lord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 it cannot possibly get worse, can it? what a clown show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 QUOTE (StrykerSox @ Apr 12, 2018 -> 08:05 PM) I usually use the enemy’s at bats as my time to take s***s, cook dinner, rough house with the kids, and so on. I hear Engel is a great defender. So, does his arm always suck that bad or was that pop up an exception? Also, why are we being stingy over one run in the 3rd inning. Get the out, please (and of course, it comes back to bite us). His arm is pretty bad TBH. He’s had a few embarrassing throws this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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