caulfield12 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) https://www.yahoo.com/sports/gambling-can-help-make-baseball-americas-pastime-043408160.html Imagine all the quants out there who will be 1) getting involved in the industry whereas before they might have only looked at Wall Street, 2) the resurrection of daily fantasy sports (again), and 3) the competition between MLB teams and capitalistic "niche exploiters" looking to profit... Meanwhile, baseball viewing/ratings should increase dramatically with this new avenue to growing the game. Young people, in particular, with a love of statistics/analysis will be drawn to it because of the extreme amount of data baseball generates compared to all the other major sports. Somehow I managed to embed a link to the topic and can't delete it, lol. Oh, well. Industry experts are unanimous in their predictions. Higher revenue. Higher television ratings. Higher engagement with fans. Higher advertising and sponsorship deals. Higher everything. ... Now? The league (NFL) has money to make and so much of it that whatever remains of the protests against the league is likely to fade or be completely meaningless. Sorting out this gambling thing is about all these billionaires are going to care about. “I think everyone who owns a top four professional sports team just saw the value of their team double,” Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban told CNBC Monday morning. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/angst-colin-kaepernick-player-protests-will-washed-away-supreme-court-ruling-sports-gambling-takes-root-205116911.html Edited May 15, 2018 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazox Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 I had no idea that you couldn't bet on sports in America , its been going on in the UK for quite a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazox Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Properly regulated since 2005 The Gambling Act of 2005 is the main law governing gambling in the United Kingdom. It established the UK Gambling Commission as the primary government instrument for enforcing gambling legislation and regulating gambling activities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 15, 2018 Author Share Posted May 15, 2018 5 hours ago, Bazox said: I had no idea that you couldn't bet on sports in America , its been going on in the UK for quite a while. Traditionally, more NFL and college football, NCAA basketball tournament pools, horse racing, boxing, etc. Baseball...see 1919 Chicago Black Sox/Shoeless Joe Jackson and Pete Rose scandals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazox Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 2 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Traditionally, more NFL and college football, NCAA basketball tournament pools, horse racing, boxing, etc. Baseball...see 1919 Chicago Black Sox/Shoeless Joe Jackson and Pete Rose scandals. Oh right , I had read about Shoeless Joe. Which club were/are the Black Sox ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Just now, Bazox said: Oh right , I had read about Shoeless Joe. Which club were/are the Black Sox ? In 1919 it is alleged that several members of the White Sox took bribes from gamblers to throw the 1919 World Series, so that gamblers could bet on the winning team. They were nicknamed the "Black Sox" after this, and the players in question were banned from baseball. Caulfield's posting style usually involves listing everything remotely relevant, or not, on a subject. There was probably very little influence of a 1919 team on politics in the early 1990s when the most recent version of the casino legislation was passed. Pete Rose would have been a more recent memory, but if you go back to statements from 1991 what really drove it was a combination of lobbying from the major sports leagues who were trying to protect their business model from competition and religious opposition to gambling, which is still strong enough to prevent some states from opting in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, Bazox said: Oh right , I had read about Shoeless Joe. Which club were/are the Black Sox ? That'd be your very own White Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazox Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 34 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: That'd be your very own White Sox Off topic , do they ever wear White Sox ? I saw some black stockings last week . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bazox said: Off topic , do they ever wear White Sox ? I saw some black stockings last week . They have worn white socks in the past. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Bazox said: Oh right , I had read about Shoeless Joe. Which club were/are the Black Sox ? If you want the Hollywood version of the Black Sox scandal watch the movie Eight Men Out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazox Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 46 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Eight Men Out I'll check that out , but I reckon Joe was innocent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Act 3 minutes ago, Bazox said: I'll check that out , but I reckon Joe was innocent. It also might interest you to know all 8 players were acquitted in a court of law . here's some pictures from that era in Sox baseball http://galleries.apps.chicagotribune.com/chi-130808-1919-black-sox-scandal-pictures/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazox Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 53 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Act It also might interest you to know all 8 players were acquitted in a court of law . here's some pictures from that era in Sox baseball http://galleries.apps.chicagotribune.com/chi-130808-1919-black-sox-scandal-pictures/ Nice to know , however you've spoilt the movie , unless Hollywood gloss it up and there is a firing squad scene Brilliant photos , fascinating . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 So MAGA (make american gambling great again)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 14 minutes ago, wrathofhahn said: So MAGA (make american gambling great again)? It's like Biff Tannen took over the alternate 1985; except he's orange with tiny hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazox Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 On 5/15/2018 at 4:51 PM, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: If you want the Hollywood version of the Black Sox scandal watch the movie Eight Men Out. Watched it yesterday , very depressing and sad state of affairs , I didn't enjoy the film , it hurt . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 15 hours ago, Bazox said: Watched it yesterday , very depressing and sad state of affairs , I didn't enjoy the film , it hurt . Also might interest you to know that Ken Berry who was a White Sox CF and my favorite player as a very young man has a bit part in EMO . His IMDb profile says "heckler" but I can't remember if that is accurate. Guess I might have to rewatch it since I have it in my DVD library. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 On 5/15/2018 at 11:39 AM, Bazox said: I'll check that out , but I reckon Joe was innocent. I did a huge report on this while in college. The movie is great, but it doesn't tell half of it. You need to get the book by Eliot Asinof. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazox Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 7 hours ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: You need to get the book by Eliot Asinof Cheers I'll have a look , does it have a better ending Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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