soxfan49 Posted May 15, 2018 Author Share Posted May 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Jose Abreu said: How do you know? Would he really be able to play professional baseball if he had heart failure, liver disease, or a kidney disorder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Just now, ptatc said: Just educated guessing. He passed a physical which means he doesn't have severe forms of those conditions which would require medication. If so, the team would have prescribed the meds, not a "licensed physician in the DR." Makes sense. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: What legitimate uses for this are there, and are any of them things Cano could have needed to take? Usually severe kidney issues or really high blood pressure. But there are others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 1 minute ago, soxfan49 said: Would he really be able to play professional baseball if he had heart failure, liver disease, or a kidney disorder? I switched beliefs since that post but those are just the most common reasons. There are exceptions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) No matter how seriously you think it should be taken, the whole PED use/Hall of Fame/banned substance thing continues to be the absolute worst part of the baseball fan experience. Edited May 15, 2018 by Eminor3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Just now, Eminor3rd said: No matter how seriously you think it should be taken, the whole PED use/Hall of Fame/banned substance thing continues to be the absolute worst part of being a baseball fan. Totally agreed. There is nothing in the history of baseball that has been screwed up worse than this debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Just now, Eminor3rd said: No matter how seriously you think it should be taken, the whole PED use/Hall of Fame/banned substance thing continues to be the absolute worst part of being a baseball fan. Getting the proud KKK members out of it should be a bigger concern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Just now, Jose Abreu said: I switched beliefs since that post but those are just the most common reasons. There are exceptions There are. However, a professional sports team with the money invested in him will monitor his health very closely. Any medication given for conditions like this would come from the team physicians, in general. There could be exceptions but it's not likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, ptatc said: Because he doesn't have those issues. He was using it to mask the PEDs. This is why it is a banned substance. That's what I was actually trying to say. His excuse is bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Just now, LittleHurt05 said: Look who's talking lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, ptatc said: Just educated guessing. He passed a physical which means he doesn't have severe forms of those conditions which would require medication. If so, the team would have prescribed the meds, not a "licensed physician in the DR." Exactly. He was trying to pass something in anticipation of a drug test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Is Didi next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Was just reported on MLB Network that part of the drug testing agreement calls for an independent doctor to review cases like this to determine whether there was likely a legitimate medical use for the substance. Given that he was suspended, the doctor must not have been convinced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 As far as the HOF discussion is concerned, it's easier for me to entertain the case of guys like this because there's a testing regimen in place and I have a decent amount of trust in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 16 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: Look who's talking lol Man, is there any reason he needed to talk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, oldsox said: Is Didi next? Hope not. I just wish the clean players go to war with the dirty players for the next CBA. If you have nothing to hide, make it almost as tough as the gambling rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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soxfan49 Posted May 15, 2018 Author Share Posted May 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: Yoan and Davidson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: This is a joke right? Pretty sure Lowrie of the A's and Altuve deserve the All-Star nod for second baseman. But Moncada's name, and if he really tears it up over the next 2 months, I guess I could see it. Edited May 15, 2018 by Scoots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Scoots said: Somebody from the White Sox has to make it one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, Scoots said: 3 second basemen usually make it. Lowrie, Altuve, Moncada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 1 minute ago, LittleHurt05 said: Somebody from the White Sox has to make it one way or another. I mean, there is still 2 months plus to go, but ReyLo would probably be the one guy that gets in. If what the poster Jose Abreu said is true about there being 3 second baseman, I could see Moncada getting in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted May 15, 2018 Author Share Posted May 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Scoots said: I mean, there is still 2 months plus to go, but ReyLo would probably be the one guy that gets in. If what the poster Jose Abreu said is true about there being 3 second baseman, I could see Moncada getting in. Davidson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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