Ducksnort Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 http://www.milb.com/scoreboard/index.jsp?cid=&lid=&org=145&sc=&sid=milb&t=affiliate&ymd=20180529 Rodon back on the bump after getting hit with a liner in the head a few days ago. If all goes well, maybe we see him in Chicago on Sunday? Cease also pitching today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 The writing is on the wall with Giolito and Rodon pitching on the same day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 On 5/29/2018 at 3:22 PM, BlackSox13 said: The writing is on the wall with Giolito and Rodon pitching on the same day. Expand Disagree. I think Giolito needs to figure things up here. Rodon/Lopez/Shields/Covey/Giolito, then Kopech comes up soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 (edited) If they didn't send Giolito down after that last start, I don't think they're going to do it. Edited May 29, 2018 by Sockin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 On 5/29/2018 at 3:22 PM, BlackSox13 said: The writing is on the wall with Giolito and Rodon pitching on the same day. Expand There is a level here that you really want to see. Yes, I want to see both Lucas and Carson learning at the major league level because their talent level is going to be too much for a lot of AAA. But when you get to the point where you aren't just struggling, but are fighting to get two innings in, that just destroys everyone else's jobs on the pitching staff and puts stress into the pen that they don't need. If you are going to be here, you need to be going at least 5 innings in almost every start. Otherwise the damage to the team is just too great, and you are pulling everyone else down with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Rodon physically pitching at the ballpark where I work tonight -- and of course it's my busiest night of the season. I will catch what I can and report though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 On 5/29/2018 at 3:27 PM, GGajewski18 said: Disagree. I think Giolito needs to figure things up here. Rodon/Lopez/Shields/Covey/Giolito, then Kopech comes up soon. Expand Who will Kopech replace then, assuming Rodon & Lopez stay healthy, Covey continues to pitch relatively well, and Giolito stays here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 On 5/29/2018 at 3:30 PM, southsider2k5 said: There is a level here that you really want to see. Yes, I want to see both Lucas and Carson learning at the major league level because their talent level is going to be too much for a lot of AAA. But when you get to the point where you aren't just struggling, but are fighting to get two innings in, that just destroys everyone else's jobs on the pitching staff and puts stress into the pen that they don't need. If you are going to be here, you need to be going at least 5 innings in almost every start. Otherwise the damage to the team is just too great, and you are pulling everyone else down with you. Expand This is exactly the case. Giolito can't have anymore of the 2 inning outings. He needs to do his learning at the MLB level but it can't be at the expense of other players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 On 5/29/2018 at 3:30 PM, southsider2k5 said: There is a level here that you really want to see. Yes, I want to see both Lucas and Carson learning at the major league level because their talent level is going to be too much for a lot of AAA. But when you get to the point where you aren't just struggling, but are fighting to get two innings in, that just destroys everyone else's jobs on the pitching staff and puts stress into the pen that they don't need. If you are going to be here, you need to be going at least 5 innings in almost every start. Otherwise the damage to the team is just too great, and you are pulling everyone else down with you. Expand Couldn't agree more. IMHO Giolito is in the same boat as Fulmer. Neither are able to consistently find home plate and have been taxing on the pen. It can't be easy on the defense sitting out there on the field watching them try to find home plate pitch after pitch. The summer heat is here and those long innings will tax the defense as well. I haven't given up on them but they clearly have to work on commanding their pitches. Fulmer was sent down for the same things Giolito is struggling with so I expect Giolito to go down when Rodon is ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 On 5/29/2018 at 3:48 PM, soxfan49 said: Who will Kopech replace then, assuming Rodon & Lopez stay healthy, Covey continues to pitch relatively well, and Giolito stays here? Expand You make room. Shields will get traded eventually. Covey can go into long relief role too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 On 5/29/2018 at 7:23 PM, GGajewski18 said: You make room. Shields will get traded eventually. Covey can go into long relief role too. Expand But if Covey continues to throw well, I think you have to leave him in the rotation and see if you found a diamond in the rough. As for Shields, I think it's wishful thinking to assume he gets dealt. Ideally, he will, but that's a large chunk of money for someone to take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Santiago is the swing man, Rodon is going to replace him in the rotation. Who goes down and who gets dropped from the 40 man is anyone’s guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 (edited) On 5/29/2018 at 7:54 PM, Timmy U said: Santiago is the swing man, Rodon is going to replace him in the rotation. Who goes down and who gets dropped from the 40 man is anyone’s guess. Expand DFA Garneau and sign some random free agent catcher to a MiLB deal to make room on the 40-man. Or pick someone out of Volstad, Infante, Minaya to dfa. Edited May 29, 2018 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 On 5/29/2018 at 7:58 PM, soxfan2014 said: DFA Garneau and sign some random free agent catcher to a MiLB deal to make room on the 40-man. Or pick someone out of Volstad, Infante, Minaya to dfa. Expand After watching yesterday’s game, i’d DFA Gonzalez and bring Garneau up until Smith is ready. That was a clinic of horribleness behind the plate. I didn’t mean to imply it was going to be hard to find someone to DFA. The Sox have like 10 guys on their 40 man who no one would miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 On 5/29/2018 at 7:36 PM, soxfan49 said: But if Covey continues to throw well, I think you have to leave him in the rotation and see if you found a diamond in the rough. As for Shields, I think it's wishful thinking to assume he gets dealt. Ideally, he will, but that's a large chunk of money for someone to take. Expand Shields will get traded. Sox will eat the money and hopefully can get a deal like they did with Melky last year. Puckett is a legit prospect, he's just hurt all year though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 On 5/29/2018 at 8:16 PM, GGajewski18 said: Shields will get traded. Sox will eat the money and hopefully can get a deal like they did with Melky last year. Puckett is a legit prospect, he's just hurt all year though. Expand If he keeps pitching like this, they might even get a small something for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 On 5/29/2018 at 7:36 PM, soxfan49 said: But if Covey continues to throw well, I think you have to leave him in the rotation and see if you found a diamond in the rough. As for Shields, I think it's wishful thinking to assume he gets dealt. Ideally, he will, but that's a large chunk of money for someone to take. Expand Eat the money, see if you can get a prospect out of it. It's not like this franchise is going to be cash strapped this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Regarding Shields and money owed, how much are Sox paying him? Wasn't SD paying some of his salary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 On 5/29/2018 at 9:17 PM, justBLAZE said: Regarding Shields and money owed, how much are Sox paying him? Wasn't SD paying some of his salary? Expand IIRC the Sox are responsible for $10 million this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 This is what u call a battling start for Cease. Not exactly his best outing so far but getting outs when it matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Rodon absolutely cruising. Looks extremely smooth. Seven k’s through three and a third, and **** hits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 And seconds after I post, meneses breaks it up with a single. It was a cheaply though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 On 5/30/2018 at 12:14 AM, Eminor3rd said: And seconds after I post, meneses breaks it up with a single. It was a cheaply though. Expand 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Rodon just threw the wildest pitch I’ve ever seen. Almost looks hurt? Nope maybe just his pride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Walks the next guy, stretching a lot on the mound. Pitching coach came out but left him in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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