ChiSoxJon Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 How I hope Fulmer can fix his control, you lower his walks and he's a very solid starter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Just now, ChiSoxJon said: How I hope Fulmer can fix his control, you lower his walks and he's a very solid starter Still think he can be a filthy backend reliever too with a clear head, maybe that's for '19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 This Frost kid has serious pop, wish he got his AVG up This KAN team is gonna have so many All-Stars, can;t wait to see the big promotion waves in 2-3 weeks Dedelow up to .290, fantastic arm too and solid fielder, should get some serious attention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: All of those guys can reach back for 95 when they need to, maybe Maeda and Odorizzi can't but the rest can, They might not average 93 but you'd bet your ass they average over 92. Also Porcello Ross and Kluber have excellent sinkers which kinda changes the equation a bit. Seems like you changed your point. Well, Giolito is averaging over 92 as well (this season). And as for the sinkers, you said : 12 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: Still doesn't mean it isn't. I just don't think a RHP can get hitters out at the MLB level without averaging 93 on the fastball anymore. You can't even set up hitters because they'll lay off of the breaking stuff and tee off on the fastball, and if you can get 3 breaking balls over the plate then they'll just grab some bench. Watch Giolito pitch and you'll see. He still has awesome breaking stuff but it doesn't matter because he throws 91. That doesn't seem to allow for the allowance you just made. Your point seems to be that you need to throw at least 93 here. Obviously that is incorrect, and Giolito's main problem isn't his average FB velocity. It isn't being able to throw strikes. With the FB, or anything else. *** The information I am using for average velocities is from Baseball Prospectus. Edited May 31, 2018 by turnin' two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) 23 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: Still doesn't mean it isn't. I just don't think a RHP can get hitters out at the MLB level without averaging 93 on the fastball anymore. You can't even set up hitters because they'll lay off of the breaking stuff and tee off on the fastball, and if you can get 3 breaking balls over the plate then they'll just grab some bench. Watch Giolito pitch and you'll see. He still has awesome breaking stuff but it doesn't matter because he throws 91. 21 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: All of those guys can reach back for 95 when they need to, maybe Maeda and Odorizzi can't but the rest can, They might not average 93 but you'd bet your ass they average over 92. Also Porcello Ross and Kluber have excellent sinkers which kinda changes the equation a bit. FACT: almost all pitchers who averages 92-93 could dial back to 95. You were just dead ass wrong. Edited June 1, 2018 by thxfrthmmrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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